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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

93.0. "Chain- strength vs. cost" by BTO::JPETERS (John Peters, DTN 266-4391) Wed Aug 03 1988 10:05

    What sort of chain do you use?  There are at least four
    classifications, in order of strength:
    
                        bulk      working
           Type        price/ft    load    Grade  load/cost
                       3/8" galv  pounds
          
         o Proof coil, $1.56      2,650      ?      1699
         o High test   $1.7       5,400      4      3176
         o Transport   $1.96      6,600      7      3367
         o Alloy       $2.78      7,300      8      2625
    
    The stuff I've seen in local boat yards is proof coil, the weakest
    and cheapest.  Is there any benefit to getting stronger chain for
    moorings?
    		John
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93.1More on mooring;MENTOR::REGJust browsing; HONEST, I'm BROKE !Tue Aug 30 1988 12:2639
    
    	Gee, almost four weeks of deafening silence on this one.  I
    don't have a mooring, but get involved in the rebuilding and tying
    down of the raft at the place we go to in the summer, so the subject
    interests me somewhat.  The sailing conference (which I KNOW you
    visit from time to time:-^) has a very extensive anchoring topic,
    all the lurid details of wind and wave forces acting on hulls and
    chain catenaries (sp ?) and elasticity of rope and such.  I think
    I'd review that, decide how much strength is  "plenty strong enough"
    and then look to other factors, such as corrosion resistance and
    expected strength loss due to corrosion.  In the fresh water lake
    that I use the raft's chain looks pretty good from a couple of inches
    above the surface up and from about 6 inches below the surface down,
    but the 4 or so ft that spends half its time wet and the other half
    dry gets rusted very quickly, probably should be replaced three
    or four times as often as the rest of it.  
    
    	I'd like to know more about the proper placement of swivels
    on mooring chains, that raft sails around and around winding up
    the chain, *I* didn't do the chain this time, just the iron on the
    bottom.  It seems that a swivel at the raft, another about where
    the chain would hit the bottom on a straight fall, and another where
    it connects to the mooring's main mass would be  "about right",
    but that's just intuitive and I'd like better guidance for putting
    the thing out next year.  
    
    	BTW, this years's  "piece of IRON"  is a huge truck brake drum,
    somewhere around 2 ft diameter weighing 250 or so pounds, it has a 3 ft
    by 3 ft T of 3/4 inch black pipe through it, then 3/8 chain (which I
    think it needs another 8 or so ft of).  When lowered to the bottom it
    stands like a mushroom anchor, when pulled on it tips and digs into the
    sand/silt bottom, again like a mushroom anchor.  We havn't tried to
    break it out, though I suspect that it would be tougher than a real
    mushroom anchor due to its greater depth, hopefully it can stay put for
    a while. 

    	Reg