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Conference vaxcat::friends

Title:Welcome to Friends!
Moderator:POWDML::VENTURA
Created:Mon Mar 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:437
Total number of notes:35174

266.0. "Foreign tongues" by VNABRW::MUDRA_M (Take my hand and I'll follow you) Mon Dec 05 1994 13:12

    
    'Cause so many persons have requested this topic: :-)
    
                         I create it!
    
    So, if you want to know how to say a special word or term in another
    language (translations from American to British English, from British
    to Australian English, from German to Indian :-)), then this is your
    topic!
    
    Tina
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266.1AhojVNABRW::MUDRA_MTake my hand and I'll follow youMon Dec 05 1994 13:154
    BTW, I forgot to tell you, I'm the specialist for German and Italian
    *<80)
    
    Tina
266.2clap trapKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Dec 05 1994 13:466
    
    
    I'm the specialist form english to east anglo gibberish
    
    Chris
    :)
266.3MARCM3::TLOTTUMNever trust a VAXmaleMon Dec 05 1994 14:035
    
     My french is pretty good....its just the language I have trouble with
    :-)))))
    
    TJ_back_again
266.4HLFS00::CHARLESchasing running applicationsMon Dec 05 1994 16:574
    Hi TJ!
    Playing Heintje Davids are we?
    ;-)
    Charles
266.5MARCM3::TLOTTUMNever trust a VAXmaleMon Dec 05 1994 17:498
     
     what do you mean "playing Heintje Davids" ?????
    
     I *AM* Heintje Davids!!! :-)))
     
     Hoi Charles!
    
    TJ
266.6HLFS00::CHARLESchasing running applicationsMon Dec 05 1994 17:594
    Figured you were ;-)
    How's it going out there?
    
    Charles
266.7what?KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Dec 05 1994 19:357
    
    
    
    o.k I'll bite...what is Heintje Davids?? :)
    
    Chris
    :)
266.8HLFS00::CHARLESchasing running applicationsMon Dec 05 1994 19:454
    Heintje Davids was a singer who for years on end announced her
    retirement, gave a last concert and made a come-back within months.
    
    Charles
266.9MARCM3::TLOTTUMNever trust a VAXmaleTue Dec 06 1994 16:1311
    foreign tongues huh? hmmmm ok hows this for diversity?
    
    Am Dutch, spent my childhood in Belgium and Iran, lived
    in Paris in my early 20ies, moved to Germany approx. 4 years
    ago, am getting married to a murrican....
    
    At the age of 7 I spoke dutch, french and english fluently (also
    serbo-croatian in several dialects but wont get into that)
    
    TJ
    
266.10SUBPAC::SADINgeneric, PC personal name.Tue Dec 06 1994 17:594

	yeowza...I have trouble speaking english.....;*)

266.11speaking with foreign tongueKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Dec 06 1994 18:016
    
    
    zo..juste adopt ze french accent zen M. Chico.
    
    Christophee ( le Internationale guy )
    :<)
266.12RANGER::REITHTue Dec 06 1994 18:234
Just enough french to get slapped in both Montreal and Paris and enough German
to confuse the natives. 7 years of Latin and I can decline a few verbs still.
Most people don't understand my english! Now if you need something translated
into C, assembler or Lisp... 8^)
266.13MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Dec 11 1995 11:3856
My wife got this on one of her writing lists and I thought people would enjoy
it. This seems a perfect topic for it. Enjoy! 

CM

Let's face it -- English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant nor
ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins
weren't invented in England or French fries in France. Sweetmeats are
candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat.

We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that
quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is
neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce
and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't  
the plural of booth beeth? One goose, 2 geese. So one moose, 2 meese? One
index 2 indices?

Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend, that you
comb through annals of history but not a single annal? If you have  
a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call
it?

If teachers taught, why didn't preacher praught? If a vegetarian eats
vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? If you wrote a letter, perhaps
you bote your tongue?

Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to  
an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people recite at a
play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship? Have noses
that run and feet that smell? Park on driveways and drive on parkways?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and
wise guy are opposites? How can overlook and oversee be opposites, while
quite a lot and quite a few are alike? How can the weather be hot as hell
one day and cold as hell another.

Have you noticed that we talk about certain things only when they are
absent? Have you ever seen a horseful carriage or a strapful gown? Met a
sung hero or experienced requited love? Have you ever run into  
someone who was combobulated, gruntled, ruly or peccable? And where are all
those people who ARE spring chickens or who would ACTUALLY hurt a fly?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house
can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling it out
and in which an alarm clock goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the
creativity of the human race (which, of course, isn't a race at all). That
is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are
out, they are invisible. And why, when I wind up my watch, I start  
it, but when I wind up this essay, I end it.

 Kevin Daniels, PhD   -   Procept, Inc.   -   Cambridge,MA

266.14:-))CHEFS::WARRENJMon Dec 11 1995 13:075
    re -1
    
    Thats good!
    
    Jackie
266.15KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Mon Dec 11 1995 13:513
    
    
    nothing quite like a foreign tongue! :))))
266.16MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Dec 11 1995 14:171
I thought I understood why Jackie liked it...
266.17:-)CHEFS::WARRENJMon Dec 11 1995 14:303
    because of the humour....why else?
    
    Jackie
266.18MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Dec 11 1995 14:353
8^)

The advantages of a distracted Mod 8^)
266.19IROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Mon Dec 11 1995 21:176
  Kevin Daniels didn't write this from scratch. It came from Richard Lederer's
book "Crazy English". Since Richard is a Granite Stater, we'd better give him
credit.
  Re "the human race": I disagree with Richard on this one. A "race" can be
either one of 5 or so subgroups of humanity, or humanity itself. This is 
especially important when non-human races are considered, such as on Star Trek.
266.20ADIEMUSMARVIN::TANG� MCMXCVIMon Feb 05 1996 10:2222
Well, I couldn't think which topic would be the most
appropriate to put this one in, but after much deliberation, I
put it here!

It could have gone in the "cries for help topic" or perhaps
one of the music topics...

I bought a CD at the weekend by a group called Adiemus.  I'm
sure this must mean something in another language, but what
language, and what does it mean or translate to in English?

I'm sure it must mean something as it's sung as a lyric in
more than one of the songs on the album...

BTW, the CD is really great...  It seems to have elements of
Enya (celtic style female vocal lead), African tribal song,
western classical string orchestra and ethnic instrumentation
in it...  Difficult to categorise really... 

Thanks in adavance...

Henry...  :o)
266.21MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Feb 05 1996 16:106
I have one as well. I've asked a few people but this might be the best way.
Please email me the answer since it'll probably be too rude to post.

I was reading some mail from some people and they were going on about how the
Yanks "root" for their favorite team. They then went on and made fun of the
usage of "flaps". Could someone tell me the Aussie slang meaning of "flaps"?
266.22NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterMon Feb 05 1996 16:1110
>I was reading some mail from some people and they were going on about how the
>Yanks "root" for their favorite team. They then went on and made fun of the
>usage of "flaps". Could someone tell me the Aussie slang meaning of "flaps"?

I can't, but when you find out I'd like to know as well!!!

Lola


266.23KERNEL::PLANTCThe trial never ended.....Mon Feb 05 1996 16:137
    
    
    
    CM ..what context did you use the word flaps in?
    
    Chris
    :)
266.24MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Feb 05 1996 17:558
>    CM ..what context did you use the word flaps in?

I didn't. It was on one of the mailing lists I subscribe to and people were
talking about rooting for the home team and the Aussies got laughing and said
that they found our use of "flaps" funny as well. I only can think of using
them as the parts of a box that fold and get taped shut or the controls on a
plane. Henry gave me a rude definition but I can't think of a usage we have
that the Aussies would find humorous.