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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 45.1 | | ICS::SANTOS | Losing my religion | Mon May 04 1992 20:30 | 2 |
| That is beautiful Tracie!
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| 45.2 | | PEKING::BAKERT | snappy come happy dragon | Mon May 04 1992 20:31 | 15 |
| this is one I feel describes LIFE
let every day
be a dream
we can touch
let every day
be a love
we can feel
let every day
be a reason
to live.
Claudia Adrienne Grandi.
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| 45.3 | | PEKING::BAKERT | snappy come happy dragon | Mon May 04 1992 20:34 | 8 |
| I don't know whether I should open up my feelings sometimes...but
hearing that someone is wanting to take their own life is something
that really distresses me....!! as I am sure it does many others....but
I feel I can help, I have a very deep understanding of life and it's
worth, and I wish I could be with Sarah to give her the encouragement
to go on !!
Tracie.
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| 45.4 | | PEKING::BAKERT | snappy come happy dragon | Mon May 04 1992 20:35 | 17 |
| One more for Sarah,,, then I must go
If it should happen
that your dreams
are shattered,
do not be afraid,
have the courage
to pick up the pieces
and smile at the World.
For dreams that are
easily shattered
can just as easily
be rebuilt !
Chris jensen
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| 45.5 | For Sarah & Tony. | ESOA11::STILLWELL | Living & Dying at the same time | Mon May 04 1992 21:27 | 12 |
| I don't know if any of you know this or not But I 'll share it with you
For Sarah's sake.....Just last october A very close friend of mine took
His Owne life, and I still havent gotten over it ! or Know how to deal
with it ! I think about him all the time Tony was his name, and I miss
him very much, but there is a part of me that is Angry also . So Lets
All get together for Sarah and say alittle paryer and send out some
hope for her . I would HATE to see someone go through What Tony's
Family and Friends went through. Please keep her in your prayers .
== Stilly ==
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| 45.6 | | DSSDEV::KRISTY | The heart is your kingdom... | Mon May 04 1992 21:42 | 18 |
| Stilly... my heart goes out to you.... my father commited suicide in
March of 1985.... There are times when I feel like it just happened
yesterday instead of 7 years ago... when I hear of people going through
what my family went through (and is still going through to some
degree), my heart aches so badly.... I cry for their pain, pray that
they'll have strength to get through it, their own and that of their
families and friends....
M-L, please tell Sarah I love her... I think deep in her heart she
knows that you, Steven, Brent and a bunch of others love her too...
she's just too immersed in her own pain to see or receive that love...
I will say a special prayer for Sarah.... and one for you, Stilly, and
anyone else who has lost a friend or family member to suicide...
*heart-felt hugs*,
-- Kristy
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| 45.7 | | AYRPLN::TAYLOR | FREE HUGS! 1st come, 1st serve .. | Mon May 04 1992 21:54 | 19 |
| M-L please tell Sarah that there is some type of hope. That we're all
thinking of her. She's not alone in this battle!
It seems as if a few of us have been hit with suicide. My brother
committed suicide just under two years ago. I still think about it -
and it still hurts very much. My mother was devastated. She now
doesn't even acknowledge that she ever had a son named John. I know
that I had a brother named JOhn, but just cannot imagine why he would
do such a thing. What makes it even worse is that he did it in the
cruelest way possible. He hung himself.
M-L, I also will say a special prayer for Sarah. I will also say one
for you! I know what you are going through, and hope that Sarah will
see the light.
Take care! And lots of hugs!
Holly
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| 45.8 | | ICS::SANTOS | Losing my religion | Mon May 04 1992 22:15 | 9 |
| I will be saying prayers for Sarah.
Believe me, I know some of the things going on inside her head. I've
dealt with it before. Please, please keep reassuring her that it IS
worth it to stay alive! It's been almost 10 years for me, and I
still think it is worth it.
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| 45.9 | | XCUSME::HOGGE | Dragon Slaying......No Waiting! | Mon May 04 1992 22:39 | 33 |
| Some of you have seen this before some of you havn't. I wrote a few
years ago when a girl who was very special to me (No NOT a lover, just
very wise) committed suicide. It was meant as a song. Now, it's
something more... I hope you understand.
She came upon a summers dream
September rains and half built schemes
But when they touched the wind
They disappeared.
And Rainbows danced on silver spheres
She'd set them gently on the air
And when they touched the wind
They disappeared.
And the wind don't pay no mind...
And I can not find the rime.
Walked through meadows velvet green
With butterflys of stained glass wings
And when they kissed the wind
They disappeared.
One day she danced upon the sun
And then she said the dance was done
And spread her arms upon the wind
And disappeared.
And the wind don't pay no mind...
And I can not find the rime.
Skip
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| 45.10 | | ICS::SANTOS | Losing my religion | Mon May 04 1992 22:40 | 1 |
| Skip, you really have a way with words.
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| 45.11 | | ABACUS::MELENDEZ | Phantom of the playground | Mon May 04 1992 22:41 | 6 |
|
Its great that all of you are showing support for Sarah, you are all
a special group of people!!
Manny
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| 45.12 | | FSOA::HLEINONEN | | Mon May 04 1992 22:44 | 11 |
|
Manny,
| " ...you are all a special group of people ..."
You're part of the group my friend. We've all been through
some trying times, and all want to help, even if only to
reach out and say "I CARE"
Heidi
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| 45.13 | | ABACUS::MELENDEZ | Phantom of the playground | Mon May 04 1992 22:51 | 8 |
|
Thanks Annie....
Thanks Heidi....
Lets hope Sarah realizes that she is special too...
Manny
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| 45.15 | | PEKING::BAKERT | snappy come happy dragon | Tue May 05 1992 00:05 | 18 |
| I can't say that I have felt as much sorrow as I do for this
notesfile....I never realised HOW many people had suffered....the
reason why i feel I wanna help so deeply , is because a few years ago
in my last job, I was responsible for interviweing people, I basically
had a good say in whether they were hired or fired, even though I
didn't have the last word, my opinion was highly appreciated as I would
have been the said persons supervisor ! Well one day a guy whom I'd
had been to school with came for an interview and to cut a story short
I said he wouldn't fit the personality for the job wasn't right,, I
knew him quite well....3 weeks later He commited suicide 'because he
couldn't get a job'...I feel if ONLY i'd hjave given him that chance he
may have been alive today !..I worked part time with his aunt and saw
the pain she went through...the suicide had such an effect on the
family, a month later another member of the family did the same, he
felt he had been a failure !! So much hurt was seen by me and there is
NO WAY i wanna see that again...I WANT to help, I know I can !!
Tracie.
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| 45.16 | "If ONLY...." | FSOA::HLEINONEN | | Tue May 05 1992 16:17 | 47 |
|
Tracie,
Your note struck a very deep chord with me and I was going to
send a personal message, but I feel others may benefit by my
response as well...
"If ONLY" is one of the most painful, and dangerous, phrases to
life with after experiencing a tragedy. DON'T apply a guilt
trip to your own life cause someone else chose to end theirs.
We all have to make our own decisions and are responsible for
ourselves. We may not make the right choice, and it's often
painful, especially for those left, but imagine the pain that
the individual suffered reaching their decision.
My only brother was a troubled soul for years. We knew when he
was a teen that David needed emotional help. Our family offerred
love and support as best we knew how, but our outstreached hands
were always slapped away .... still we reached out. David made it
through 28 years before ending his suffering by taking his own
life. He never left a note cause he blamed no one.
The anger, hurt, guilt began - the "if only" syndrome hit
me VERY hard. I was strong for my parents for about six months
then moved away (literally out of the state) to deal with my own
guilt and grief. I entered counselling myself and began to realize
that I had helped in some way, the best way I knew how. David knew
I loved him, and that I wanted to be there for him, he just
couldn't accept it ... or didn't know how. He had to do what
was *right* for him.
The tears are getting in my way as I try to finish this ... its
been almost 10 years, but the hurt is still fresh ... I miss him
terribly. What I'm trying to say is PLEASE don't blame yourself
at all for what happened. You did help his family a lot I'm sure!
He obviously had deeper problems than being rejected from one job
interview. If given the chance he may have failed miserably then
still had reason for ending his life. I'm not trying to sound
callous but move forward, what happened is over, help his family,
and help yourself heal from the "if only...."
Your warmth and caring has helped many Tracie, just through your
frienships here in notes. Just be you... and accept what we
can, and can't do.
Heidi
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| 45.17 | | PEKING::BAKERT | snappy come happy dragon | Tue May 05 1992 16:22 | 1 |
| Thanks
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| 45.18 | | ESOA11::STILLWELL | Living & Dying at the same time | Tue May 05 1992 16:30 | 5 |
| That is some helpfull advice . Thank you too .
== Stilly ==
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| 45.19 | | BTOVT::BAGDY_M | In search of Cappuccino from London ! | Tue May 05 1992 18:20 | 40 |
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If only Sarah was able to read this. . .I know what I'd say.
`Call me ! Talk to me ! Let me show you things in nature
that so many people take for granted. Let me help you laugh
again ! But most of all, let me be your friend ! You give
what you can, and I will give everything I can to be a guide
while your eyes re-adjust to the brightness, of happiness and
joy as you emerge from the darkness.
There *is* so much more to life than what they show you on
television. There *is* so much more that is forgotten from
day to day. There *is* hope. There *is* happiness !
Reach out your hand Sarah. . .let it be taken.'
I wasn't going to put this here. I started at least a dozen
times last night and quitted from the editor.
I still hurt from 1� years ago. . .
I still feel the pain. . .
I still feel the emptiness. . .
I still feel anger where I feel that I shouldn't be the one
that's going through this mental agony, cause I didn't do
anything to warrant that agony.
I still have unanswered questions. . .
Sorry. . .I didn't want this reply to turn out like this.
I'll gladly trade my head and heart with anyone who feels
things are that bloody bad, for a day, so they can understand
that they leave more pain and anger behind, than anything
they could/would/will EVER go through !
Good luck Sarah. . .you're loved by more than just family,
and this. . .is coming from a stranger. . .to you.
I gotta' go. . .
Kermit
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| 45.21 | | PEKING::BAKERT | snappy come happy dragon | Tue May 05 1992 19:07 | 7 |
| that is really lovely matt..
M-L...anything I may have written I'd like you to take to sarah...and
read it when you feel fit !
thanks Tracie.
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| 45.22 | | XCUSME::HOGGE | Dragon Slaying......No Waiting! | Tue May 05 1992 19:48 | 14 |
| M-L,
You don't even have to edit the header off at least as far as I'm
concerned. Let her know those who took an interest, shared the fear,
walked the line, and made it through in one way or another.
But, if there are any words to pass on to her right now, I think Kermit
wrote them best, if she goes... she will leave more pain behind then
she will have resolved, more questions unanswered then she ever asked,
more emptyness in hearts then she ever felt, for she will be effecting
everyone who she has ever touched. And once gone will leave a void
in the lives of those people she may have touched in the future.
Skip
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| 45.23 | | PEKING::BAKERT | snappy come happy dragon | Tue May 05 1992 21:16 | 1 |
| here here...I agree...no need to remove headers !
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| 45.24 | | ASDG::J_MCGEE | | Wed May 06 1992 20:26 | 8 |
| You know, sometimes I get into these files, I see all of the joking
and stuff, and I forget that there are real "people" behind the scenes.
Sarah, M-L, Stilly and you all, your words have deeply touched me, I
will keep you all in prayer. My wife trid to commit suicide many years
ago, but, thank God, she got help. And with God's help, I know Sarah
and all can get through this.
Joe
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| 45.25 | Another hoping to help | LUNER::DREYER | Live and let live | Mon May 11 1992 20:05 | 42 |
|
To me this piece is inspirational, and hopefully can help to encourage Sarah.
We have to keep on trying, no matter what.
DON'T QUIT
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When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,
When the road you are trudging seems all uphill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit,
Rest, if you must - but don't you quit!
Life is queer with its twists and turns,
As every one of us sometime learns,
And many a failure turns about
When he might have won had he stuck it out;
Don't give up, though the pace seems slow-
You might succeed with another blow ......
Success is failure turned inside out-
the silver tint of the clouds of doubt-
And you can never tell how close you are,
It may be near when it seems afar;
So stick to the fight when you are hardest hit-
It's when things get worse that you mustn't quit!
Don't trust the clouds - trust the sunshine.
Don't set your compass by the flash of lightning - set it by the stars.
Trust the sun - don't trust the shadows.
Believe in your dreams - don't believe in your despairing thoughts.
Have faith in your faith - and doubt your doubts.
Trust in your hopes - never trust in your hurts.
And you will move on eventually, effectively, inspiringly to faith's final
phase: the cresting phase.
Good luck, Sarah. I wish I could credit the person who wrote this, but I don't
know who it was.
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| 45.26 | HELLO TO SARAH & M-L | FSOA::HLEINONEN | | Mon Jun 01 1992 19:00 | 12 |
|
M-L
Though it's been a few weeks, Sarah is still very much in my
thoughts and prayers, as I'm sure many others in ::FRIENDS.
How is she doing? How are you doing? Could you give us an
update when you get a chance?
Thanks ..... warm hugs
Heidi
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| 45.27 | | PEKING::BAKERT | Walking on SUNSHINE | Mon Jun 01 1992 19:24 | 8 |
| .26
yes I too have been thinking about her and wondering how she is gettng
on ?? Yes please DO update us....has she read any of the poems and
notes that we all sent yet ?
Mizz T
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| 45.29 | | PEKING::BAKERT | Walking on SUNSHINE | Mon Jun 01 1992 20:01 | 1 |
| see mail M-L
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| 45.31 | | PARITY::ELWELL | Watch me lick my eyebrows | Tue Jun 02 1992 16:09 | 5 |
| M-L
I'm in total agreement.
B
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| 45.32 | | MVDS02::BELFORTI | I forgive you.... chilling | Fri Feb 18 1994 21:20 | 4 |
| Just to let you all know, Sarah is doing GREAT!
She is Employee of the Month at Toys R Us... voted in by her managers
and peers.
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| 45.33 | *snarf*? | USAT05::NOORDIJK | rubberband girl me | Fri Feb 18 1994 21:20 | 2 |
|
Who is sarah again?
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| 45.34 | snarf #4...... at Sarah's expense! | MVDS02::BELFORTI | I forgive you.... chilling | Fri Feb 18 1994 21:21 | 7 |
| Plus she is now 18, and a senior.
She has done a lot of growing in the past year.
She's really a pretty nice young lady... very unlike her mother!
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| 45.35 | | MVDS02::BELFORTI | I forgive you.... chilling | Fri Feb 18 1994 21:24 | 11 |
| HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA
wondered if anyone was paying attention to me!
Sarah is my daughter..... she was hospitalized 2 years ago, Feb. 28;
for depression, drug abuse and alcohol abuse. She was in for 17 days,
released with a prescription for Prozac... and became suicidal... so
was back in within 3 days for an additional 15 days.
She has been clean and sober for a little over a year now...
Thanksgiving a year ago.
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| 45.36 | :v) | USAT05::NOORDIJK | rubberband girl me | Fri Feb 18 1994 21:26 | 6 |
|
Excellent news then!!!
Troublemaker!
t.
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| 45.37 | | MVDS02::BELFORTI | I forgive you.... chilling | Fri Feb 18 1994 21:29 | 7 |
| with a capital "T".......
Probably the single best thing about this whole affair... she has dumped
most of her old friends, the ones who liked to party. She still talks
to them, but she doesn't hang around with them any more.
She really is an Ok kid!
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| 45.38 | that my sweetie! ;-) | JGODCL::NOORDIJK | less than 2 weeks now! ;-) | Mon Feb 21 1994 07:27 | 14 |
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re: M-L.....Ok kid? Does she have the same nasty *snarfy* attitude like
you do...? ;-)))))))))
I'm glad to hear that Sarah was chosen to be the best! ;-))))
You can be and must be very proud! ;-)
I had spotted that 33 a longgggggg time ago though but didn't think
I wanted to take it because of the subject!!!!! Now my sweetie did!
hahahahahaha! Thanks hon! Keep taking them honey! ;-)
m. ;-)
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| 45.39 | | FRSBEE::DREYER | Make new friends, but keep the old! | Tue Feb 22 1994 11:55 | 8 |
| M-L,
Great news about Sarah! I hadn't known about her previous problems, but it's
wonderful to hear that she has pulled through so beautifully!
Hugs,
Lola
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| 45.40 | Chris, I got one too!! | KAMALA::DREYER | Soon to be cruising! | Fri May 05 1995 00:05 | 3 |
| Just have to get this birthday snarf!
Lola
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