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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

790.0. "Women in space" by TNPUBS::COOK () Fri Mar 20 1992 17:04

This month is Women's history month. I'm reading an article about women
astronauts. After reading it I have a couple of questions I hoping that some one
might answer for me.

It states that 25 women had been tested at the same time as John Glenn and Alan
Shepard. This article stated that women had tested better physical capable than
men. Women are less subject to heart attacks and better able to endure extremes
of heat, cold, pain, noise and loneliness than men. Women use less oxygen, less
food, and normally their weight is less. With all these advantages they were
ruled out of the Mercury program and the trips to the moon.

Questions:

1. Why were women ruled out of the Mercury program?

2. Were women part of the big picture from day one, or was space programs forced
   to use women because of the women movement?

3. What happened to the first women tested for the Mercury program?


I do seem to remember something about women were not used in the trip to the
moon because the astronauts had to urinate in their space suits for these
missions creating a health problem for women.  Is this true?

I'll will be thankful for any positive feed back on these questions.
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790.1PRAGMA::GRIFFINDave GriffinSun Mar 22 1992 14:4157
What a really great question!   [I recently "lectured" at a local elementary
school on the space program and some similar questions were raised about the
current stated of women in the space program, so now I've got another reason
to probe it a bit further!]


These are just off the top of my head -- I'll try to dig up some additional
details in the next few weeks (if others don't beat me to it).


1. Why were women ruled out of the Mercury program?

I think you will find the official reason was that astronauts "had" to be
military pilots (preferably from the test pilot side of the house), and there
just weren't any women who were.  All high-speed jets were military combat
planes, and the U.S. government did not allow women to participate in combat
roles (this is *just* starting to change 30+ years later).

To a small extent, I think the requirement that the astronauts be highly
experienced test pilots was somewhat justified (especially for the early days),
but for the most part I think the attitudes of the day held far more sway than
any objective evidence that existed.


2. Were women part of the big picture from day one, or was space programs forced
   to use women because of the women movement?

Well I wasn't there, so this is just based on my reading of the space program
as a hobby.  There were very *few* women involved in the space program from
the highest levels on down until you reached the contractors and assembly
workers (the exception here would be secretaries and office managers).  Besides
the craftspeople who built the spacecraft, the most prominent area women were
noted for were the skills of building space suits.

I know of one woman who figured prominently in the development of the Space
Telescope (HST nowadays), but she was a scientist (astronomer) not an engineer,
so it is a tangential reference at best.

I've seen references to a very small number of female engineers working in the
various space programs (Mercury/Gemini/Apollo).  I'll bet the ratio was easily
100:1.

I think the higher involvement of women in the space program came primarily from
the women's movement challenging and supporting young women to pursue science
and engineering careers -- which naturally led to their increased visibility
in the space program(s).

3. What happened to the first women tested for the Mercury program?

I believe there was a recent Air & Space article related to this.  I will dig
it up when I get home.  [I hope I'm not suffering from neural crosstalk on this.]


- dave

[I answered one of the 4th grader's questions with "I think the first person
on Mars will be probably be a woman in the year 2040 or so."  :-)  -dg]
790.2Plumbing DECWIN::FISHERI *hate* questionnaires--WorfSun Mar 22 1992 18:419
    BTW, I have also read somewhere that one of the excuses used for not
    having women in the early days was one of plumbing.  Of course, the
    early Mercury flights had no plumbing anyway (the story goes that Alan
    Shepard went up with a spacesuit leg full of liquid).  Also, you notice
    that the problem was apparently solved well enough for women to venture
    outside of the shuttle in space suits.
    
    Burns
    
790.3needing your input - thanksTNPUBS::COOKWed Mar 25 1992 08:325
    >  Note 790.1
    
    I'm looking forward to what ever you can find.  At this point I haven't
    been able to find any real information to answer these questions, one
    way or the other.
790.4 Fellow Ladies Astronaut Trainees (FLATs)LEVERS::CORTESWed Mar 25 1992 16:5572
Actually these women were quite accomplished test pilots. According to
"Final Frontier" 25 women pilots, who at the time were at the peak of
their aviation careers, were called to participate in the series of tests
as required for the astronaut program. Twelve FLATs (for Fellow Lady
Astronaut Trainee, as they were called) eventually passed the first round
of 75 exhaustive physical, laboratory, x-ray, psychological and other
tests. All of them were as well trained and committed to aviation as
their male counterparts, the Mercuri Seven. One good example is Mary
Wallace Funk who at that time had around 10,000 hours of flying time
while most of the Mercuri astronauts had an average of four to five
thousand. Mary also had a college degree and beat John Glen on the stress
test, bicycle analysis test and lung power tests. Additionally, she beat
Wally Schirra on vertigo and set a record in the bicycle endurance and
isolation tests (stayed 10 1/2 hours in the isolation tank when previous
test subjects had only lasted about 4 1/2 hours before lapsing into
hallucinations). Another good example was Jerrie Cob. She was a 
28 year old professional pilot with 16 years of experience,  had 
logged more than 7,000 hours of flight time, broken the sound barrier in 
a TR-102 Delta Dagger and grabbed three world records on speed and 
altitude. However, after completing the first two stages of their
testing, and just before starting phase 3, they were notified that all
further tests had been canceled. The reasons for that can still be
debated, but I don't believe that a good reason was ever given. 
Here is a summary of the other 12 FLATs: 
     
Mary Wallace "Wally" Funk II : Only 22 at the time of the first tests, 
Funk was the youngest of the group. She had graduated from Oklahoma State 
at age 20, where she led the schools's team in aviation competitions 
before becoming an Army flight instructor. 

Jean Hixson: Then 39, she was a WASP (Women Air-Force Service Pilot) 
engineering test pilot at a B-52 base in World War II. Afterwards she 
became a flight instructor and earned bachelor's and master's degrees. An 
Air Force Reserve officer, she was the second woman to break the sound 
barrier. 

Geraldine Hamilton Sloan Truhill: At 33 she had been flying for 19 years. 
She was a pilot for a Dallas firm that modified, maintained and sold 
aircraft. They were developing a terrain-following radar for the first 
aeronautical infrared systems, and part of her job was to coordinate 
design of the systems with flight crews and engineers. 

Marion and Jan Dietrich: Twin sisters who at age 36 had been flying for 
20 years, they had been winning against male competitors in air races 
since they were teenagers. Each had commercial and instructors' licenses 
and had broken the sound barrier in jets. 

Rhae Hurrie Allison: At 32, a charter pilot and instructor, she delivered 
planes around the country for an air brokerage business. 

Myrtle Grey Thompson Cagle: By age 38 she had flown for 24 years. She 
operated Selma, North Carolina airport for 10 years and had over 8,000 
hours of flying time. 

Jane Briggs Hart: A seasoned pilot at 41, she ferried her husband 
Phillip Hart, doing his campaign for the US Senate and later flew Rose 
Kennedy along the campaign trail for her son John. 

Gene Nora Stumbough Jessen: Then 26, she had gone to work after 
graduating from college for an aircraft manufacturer, teaching, flying and 
demonstrating planes. 

Irene Leverton: Also an avid parachutist, the 36 year old pilot supervised 
a flying school in California. 

Sara Lee Gorelik Rately: At 29, with a degree in mathematics, she was an 
experienced aviator working for AT&T as an engineer.

Bernice Trimble Steadman: Then 37, she had stopped logging her flight 
hours after reaching the 10,000 mark. She had air transport, instrument 
and instructors' ratings, took part in transcontinental air races and 
owned an aviation school in Flint, Michigan. 
790.5Re: .4PRAGMA::GRIFFINDave GriffinWed Mar 25 1992 17:574
I had combed through my Air & Space issues and couldn't find it -- it figures
it was in Final Frontier (I was going to check them tonight).... Sigh!

- dave
790.6Re: .5LEVERS::CORTESThu Mar 26 1992 09:469
    Yes, the article appeared in the May/June 1990 issue of "Final 
    Frontier". The title of the article is "The Wrong Stuff". The following
    comment is also included below the title:
    
     	" They wanted to be the first American women in space. And they are
    	  still wondering who scrubbed the mission"
    
    Eladio