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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

685.0. "shuttle technical questions" by 58378::R_YURKIW () Sat Dec 15 1990 09:24

    There is one technical question that has been on my mind for a while.
    The external tank connects to the bottom of the orbiter in from what I
    can see two places. Also there is the 17" main fuel intake. What I
    would like to know is how are these areas protected from the heat of
    re-entry. I know that the landing gear comes out of a protected
    compartment just before landing but is there a "door??" that covers the
    tank connection points and the fuel intake. If not then how come these
    areas don't burn up on re-entry??
    
    regards.
    
    Roger
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685.1PRAGMA::GRIFFINDave GriffinSat Dec 15 1990 11:4826
    Yes, there are two doors that protect the Orbiter/External Tank
    Umbilicals.
    
    Looking at the underside of the Orbiter you would see something like
    this:
    
    
        +==========+----------+X+----------+==========+
        |         ||          | |          ||         |
        |         ||          | |          ||         |
        |Umbilical||   Door   | |   Door   ||Umbilical|
        |         ||          | |          ||         |
        +==========+----------+X+----------+==========+
                  ^^                       ^^
                  Hinge                    Hinge
    
    
        X = Centerline latches.
    
    
    After the external tank separates, the centerline latches are released
    and retracted into the orbiter.  This allows the umbilical doors to
    swing shut.   The umbilical doors, like the landing gear doors, are
    covered with the same tile material.
    
    - dave
685.2Space Shuttle Development HistoryMTWAIN::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Mon Jan 20 1992 18:01503
Article: 861
From: [email protected] (Wales Larrison)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Shuttle Development History (1 of 6)
Date: 18 Jan 92 23:07:30 GMT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)
 
  The following set of messages is a consise history of the shuttle
development I posted on sci.space in 1990.  This might reduce some of
the fog of rhetoric I'm seeing here.  A couple of years ago I was
digging into the history of the design of the space shuttle system,
put together a history of the shuttle development. 
 
  Simplest, most accessible references, which cover a good range of 
the overall technical and political decisions that went into the 
Space Shuttle design decisions: 
    "Enterprise" by J. Grey (avail in most large public libraries) 
    "The Decision to Develop the Space Shuttle", by J.M. Logsdon, 
Space Policy, May 1986 
    " The Space Shuttle Program: A Policy Failure?", Science, 30 May 
1986 
    "Engineering Design and Political Choice: the Space Shuttle 
1969-1972", by S.N. Pace published as an AIAA historical paper 1984, 
and as a MIT master's thesis, 1982 
    2 articles by C. Barfied in "National Journal", 12 and 19 Aug 72 
 
  Other good articles: 
    "Evolution of the Space Shuttle Design", by J.P. Loftus, S.M. 
Andrich, M.G. Goodhard, and R.C. Kennedy 
    "The Space Shuttle - Some Key Program Decisions", by R.F. 
Thompson (1984 Von Karman Lecture) 
    "Progress of manned space flight from Apollo to Space Shuttle", 
by A. Cohen (1984 Von Karman lecture) 
    "The Space Shuttle Focused Technology Program: Lessons Learned" 
Aeronautics and Astronautics,  Feb 1983 
 
  If the forum will indulge me, I'd like to also add a few more 
comments on the design process that was followed.  This is 
synopsized from the above articles, plus some more digging I've done 
on my own into the data available (including requesting and reading 
a fair number of the supporting contract reports, study assessments, 
economic analyses, and industry proposals - plus talking to some of 
the key participants). 
 
  NASA typically follows what is known as a "Phased Development" 
program.  The rules for this are outlined in OMB circular A-109. 
Typically, there are initial small technology studies and small 
design studies.  To begin the process, a Phase-A study is let for 
"Concept Exploration", which tries to establish if a concept is 
feasible, and what its primary design constraints and requirements 
might be.  A Phase-B Study is next, which focuses on a "Preliminary 
Design" for a selected concept to meet the design requirements 
established in Phase A.  Critical technologies should be identified 
and demonstrated. Finally a Phase C/D "Design, Development, Test, 
and Engineering" contract is awarded, which leads to a flight 
article. 
  To scope this effort, there are about 100 Phase A studies awarded 
for every Phase C/D, since not every conceptual idea is ever 
pursued to production.  Typical Phase A studies range from $100K to 
$5M or so, and take up to a couple of years to complete.  Phase B 
studies have at least 2 competitors, usually take 1-2 years to 
complete, and range in the $5-$50 million range.  There is usually 
only 1 winner of Phase C/D contracts, but the loser may be brought 
in later as a "second source" or as a contractor for some parts of 
the overall system, if their design is superior in those areas (as 
was done with the F-16 and F-18) 
 
  From the documentation I have, Space Shuttle design studies began 
in about 1968, with studies by MDAC of a Gemini-derived 9-12 man 
spacecraft ("Big-G") for resupplying a space Station.  In the heady 
days after the first Moon landing, NASA and the administration had 
mapped out an overall plan for future space activities which 
included Space Station, a Lunar Base, Manned Mission to Mars, 
continued use of the Saturn-series of Rockets, and a Space Shuttle. 
  Ref: "America's Next Decade in Space: A Report for the Space Task 
       Group", NASA, Sep. 1969 
                                                (Cont)
 
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Article: 863
From: [email protected] (Wales Larrison)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Shuttle Development History (2 of 6)
Date: 18 Jan 92 23:08:50 GMT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)
 
  To gather more insight into what it would take to accomplish this 
ambitious plan for space activities, NASA began a series of Phase A 
and technology studies.  (It should be noted this included Phase A 
studies of Lunar Bases, Saturn-derived launch vehicles, Manned Mars 
Missions, and Space Stations, among others).  They let four Phase A 
contracts for "Integrated Launch and Reentry Vehicle" studies, 
totaling $1.8 M, in 1969.  These included: 
   o McDonnell-Douglas Astronautics Company (MDAC), contract NAS 9-
9204 (with LaRC) of a HL-10 body shape with a straight wing and 
25,000 lb payload. 
   o North American Rockwell (NAR), contract NAS 9-9205, (with JSC) 
of a straight wing vehicle with a 50,000 lb payload. 
   o Lockheed Missiles and Space Corporation (LMSC), contract NAS 9-
9206, (with MSFC) for a 1 1/2 stage vehicle with a double delta 
wing, launched in a triamese configuration.  (This is later 
redirected to 2 stage fully reusable configuration, as the triamese 
proved unstable.) 
  o General Dynamics (GD), contract NAS 9-9207, (with MSFC), of a 
triamese vehicle configuration with a two-element swing wing and 
50,000 pound payload. 
  Martin Marrieta performed a parallel study effort under company 
money (they had lost the Phase A competition), which followed the 
same schedule, of a launcher with a 36,500 pound payload called the 
"Spacemaster". 
 
  In parallel, and based upon the results of these Phase A study 
contracts, NASA (at JSC, MSFC, and LaRC) studied a series of 
alternative conceptual designs and performed system sizing studies 
(contractually supported by MDAC), including a "DC-3 Shuttle" design 
supported by Vought aviation. 
 
  Each of the major aerospace contractors also funded and ran their 
own conceptual design and costing exercises, in parallel with their 
contractual efforts.  The estimates of these company investments 
come to about $120 million over the 1968-1970 time period.  
Unfortunately, much of the data supporting these industry studies is 
lost, excepting conclusions and summaries of the results. 
 
  In 1970, NASA let 4 basic Phase B Contracts for a total of $30M, 
over a 1 year period.  Each contractor submitted about 500 pages of 
technical and cost analyses supporting their proposal.  Proposals 
were submitted from: 
  o Lockheed/Boeing (teamed with TWA, AC Electronics Division, Bell 
Aerosciences, Bendix Navigation, and Messerschmitt-Boeklow-Bolm) 
  o Grumman (teamed with General Electric, Northrup, Aerojet 
General, and Eastern Airlines) 
  o MDAC (teamed with Martin Marietta, TRW, PanAm, Raytheon, and 
United Aircraft Norden Division) 
  o North American Rockwell/General Dynamics (teamed with American 
Airlines, Honeywell, and IBM) 
 
  Two proposals were selected (MDAC and NAR), each company team to 
study a fully reusable system, with both a high (1100 nmi) and a low 
(600 nmi) cross-range orbiter, carrying a 40,000 pound payload.  
Each was funded at $20 M. 
    MDAC, contract number NAS 8-26016 (with MSFC), 1970 
    North American Rockwell, contract NAS 9-10960 (with JSC), 1970 
 
  However, budgetary impacts and external politics began to affect 
the system.  As studies of the Space Station and fully reusable 
shuttle continued, it became clear to pursuing the Space Station and 
Space Shuttle as a first step towards longer term objectives (such 
as the lunar base and Mars mission) would require more than a 
doubling of NASA's annual budget for some years.  This was felt to 
be unrealistic due to the current budget crunch needed to support 
increased military expenditures in Southeast Asia and the continuing 
expansions of programs from "the Great Society" begun in the mid-
1960's. (Note: NASA's space budget had peaked at $5.9 billion in 
1966, and by 1970 had declined to $3.5 billion.) 
                                                   (Cont)
 
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Article: 862
From: [email protected] (Wales Larrison)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Shuttle Development History (3 of 6)
Date: 18 Jan 92 23:10:00 GMT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)
 
  During Congressional Review of the NASA 1971 budget, it was stated 
NASA should first build the Space Shuttle over the Space Station 
because if they could not be developed simultaneously, the Shuttle 
could act as a surrogate station in extended orbital missions, and 
the establishment of the space shuttle was necessary for cost-
effective logistics support of a space station.  This decision was 
bumped to the highest level in the administration to President Nixon,
by his top domestic policy advisor John Erlichman and approved. 
 
   A detailed independent economic analysis of the Shuttle program 
was prepared, at the request of Congress.  This was made by an 
outside, non-aerospace consulting firm.  This was a pivotal step 
since it forced NASA to identify the Shuttle as the primary means of 
performing a variety of roles for NASA, DoD, and other users -- and 
forced NASA into a public justification of the Shuttle on near-term 
financial grounds, when other reasons for such a system were more 
fundamental (as part of a long term American space strategy).  NASA 
now had to get DoD assurances it would use the shuttle for all its 
launches and began designing to meet all DoD launch requirements.  
NASA was forced to show Congress and the Administration how any 
system selected would be cheaper than any alternative launch system.  
Results from this economic analysis would be used as the rationale 
to "phase out" other launch systems. 
    "Economic Analyses of New Space Transportation Systems", 
     Mathematica, Inc., 2 volumes, May 1971   
 
  At this point, NASA stopped providing strategy for future space 
programs, and began a long series of tactical battles focusing on 
narrower and narrower budgetary battles. It had to meet strict 
economic criteria imposed by OMB (who maintained an independent 
shuttle system design group), and was encouraged to design a shuttle 
that could "do all things and be all things" to all users to get the 
maximum cost effectiveness.  This made it very difficult to accept 
suggestions for smaller, less capable, and less risky shuttle 
systems, or to accept the added costs of parallel development 
programs which could reduce technical risks. 
  While the two stage fully reusable configuration was the option 
offered the lowest potential cost per flight (as shown by all of the 
Phase A studies), the overall cost to develop the system was 
attacked by Congress and OMB.  Other options for the Space Shuttle 
configuration had to be examined. 
  To look at lower development cost, but higher operational cost 
options, Grumman and Lockheed were given supporting contracts in 
parallel to the existing Phase B contract studies to look at  
"Alternative Space Shuttle Concepts" which included a 1 1/2 stage 
thrust-augmented system, a solid booster/reusable orbiter system, a 
reusable booster and orbiter system, and a minimum risk fully 
reusable system.  This was done as extensions to their Phase A 
studies, and were essentially parallel Phase B studies to the fully 
reusable system previously selected to provide the lowest 
operational cost.  Each study was funded at $14 M. 
    Lockheed, contract NAS 8-26362 (with MSFC), 1970 
    Grumman, contract NAS 9-11160 (with MSFC), 1970 
 
  It should be noted that numerous parallel technology studies were 
also being performed.  Results from these studies would be used to 
flesh out the Phase B study efforts in key technical areas.  These 
included a foamed silica coated borosilicate glass studied for a 
reusable heat shield (which offered a 10:1 weight reduction and 
greatly decreased costs over metallic thermal protection systems), 
reusable cryo tankage, advanced materials, and cryo engines. 
 
  At the end of the formal Phase B studies in 1971, several 
conclusions were reached.  Primary among them was the preferred 2 
stage, fully reusable system had a high development cost, required 
multiple concurrent technology developments, and had a relatively 
high technology risk.  Development costs could exceed $2 billion in 
the peak year.  The political feasibility of the preferred 2 stage 
fully reusable design ended when, in 1971,  the OMB capped the NASA 
budget for all programs not to exceed $3.2 billion, and specifically 
stated they would not increase this level in the foreseeable future. 
  An alternative configuration studied in the Phase A extension 
studies using an expendable external fuel tank was felt to have 
lower development costs and lower technology risks.  However, this 
                                                    (Cont)
 
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Article: 864
From: [email protected] (Wales Larrison)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Shuttle Development History (4 of 6)
Date: 18 Jan 92 23:12:18 GMT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)
 
decision bumped the Phase B studies back to the starting point.  All 
of the Phase B studies were extended for another year.  NASA 
baselined the external tank approach in August 1971 to reduce peak 
development cost and began to look at variations on the differing 
booster and shuttle designs with reduced system development costs, 
while still getting as much utility out of the vehicle as possible. 
   An external fuel tank, by putting more than 80% of the mass to be 
accelerated into a flexible design envelope, reduced the system 
sensitivity to the critical uncertainties of orbiter inert weight 
growth, and main engine performance shortfall.  While these design 
factors had been massively analyzed, the system design was very 
sensitive to these.  Since all uncertainties could not be eliminated 
without actually building and testing a system (and there was no 
money for doing this), NASA chose to pick a system that was the 
least sensitive to these uncertainties. This approach however, 
complicated the operations, and greatly increased recurring costs. 
  (Note: using 20:20 hindsight, the engine performance has 
technically been right on.  Engine recurring cost has exceeded its 
expected levels, since the approach taken was to not risk 
performance in favor of lower costs.  Similarly, the orbiter inert 
weight has grown approximately 2 % over the expected weight set in 
1971 - primarily due to uncertainties in the aerodynamics and 
aerothermal environments.  Prior to the shuttle, the X-15 had 
provided data up to about Mach 7, but the entry environment from 
Mach 7-25 was pretty much unknown, and almost impossible to simulate 
on the ground.  Again, the decision was made to design heavier 
structures and less maintainable systems to encompass the range of 
these uncertainties - reducing the development risk and cost, while 
increasing the recurring costs from continuing operations.  NASA's 
priority had been changed from the recurring operational 
characteristics of the vehicles - and this would come back to haunt 
them in complex and high cost operations for the system.) 
  For Booster design, the reusable booster design had been ruled out 
as too expensive to develop (although everyone involved agreed it 
would be cheaper to operate flight-to-flight).  After several design 
iterations, a design emerged based upon Grumman and MDAC analyses 
which used an expendable booster burning in parallel to the orbiter 
during first stage flight. It seemed to provide the most capability, 
with the minimum development cost, although every assessment showed 
it had a higher recurring cost. 
  Cost awareness was very high at NASA.  NASA's guidelines to the 
contractors in August 1971 included: 
  "o Don't exceed much over $1 B in any year 
   o Keep total costs below $12 B for 445 flights 
   o Keep Risks Low - don't do a great deal more than we have 
     demonstrated before 
   o Keep flexible to vary costs with traffic demands" 
 
  By this time, NASA's cost data base was extensive, based upon up 
to 6 independent cost analyses designs for similar systems, and it 
very specifically showed the differences in vehicle configuration 
and recurring cost from limiting development costs. 
   The following is example data from summary data from my files... 
   [Summary Data from 3 August 1971 JSC internal report] 
   Grumman Concepts - all 1 1/2 stage, thrust augmented systems. 
 
                  Expendable   Expendable     Expendable     Reuse  
                  Liq Booster  Liq Booster    Solid Bstr     Orb & 
                  (Reuse Cryo  Reuse Orb      Reuse Orb      Booster  
                   Tanks)
                  Reuse Orb
DDT&E ($M)
  Orbiter           2,600       2,615           2,615         2,586
  Booster/SRM         153         537             338         2,724
  Reuse Cryo Tanks    301
  Main Engine         657         769             657           655
  Flt test            651         693             664           936
    Total           4,362       4,614           4,274         7,079
 
                                                        (Cont)
 
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Compuserve: >internet:[email protected]

Article: 865
From: [email protected] (Wales Larrison)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Shuttle Development History (5 of 6)
Date: 18 Jan 92 23:13:38 GMT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)
 
Production ($M)
  Orbiter             482         544             544           491
  Booster/SRM       1,369       2,612           5,644         1,121
  Tanks             2,259
     Total          4,110       3,156           6,188         1,612
 
Operations            998       2,131           1,105         1,475
 
Total Program       9,470       9,901          11,567         9,988
 
Peak Annual         1,100       ?????           1,100         1,640
 Funding
 
Direct Cost          9.82       10.26           14.66          3.23
 per Flight
 
Note:(translating from 1971 dollars to 1990 dollars, yields a cost per 
flight of          $35.84M      $37.45M         $53.51M      $11.79M 
these were for a 40,000 pound payload system, and yielded a cost per 
pound (1990$) of    $896        $936            $1338         $295  ). 
 
  [Note: A system similar to option 3 was chosen since it had the 
lowest technical risk, most flexibility, and low development costs.]
 
  NASA still had not been given the official go-ahead for shuttle 
development, although the primary decision had apparently already 
been made in the White House.  In a calculated measure, NASA was 
forced by OMB to go through repeated attempts to reduce the Shuttle 
development costs.  (Ref: Pace, Logsdon)  Casper Weinberger, Deputy 
Director of the OMB, told his staff that they had a free hand to 
work on NASA to reduce program costs.  Through November and December 
of 1971 OMB and NASA fought over the shuttle design and 
configuration (despite all of the previous contracted studies and 
study results).  To force NASA to consider smaller, lower-cost 
shuttles, OMB kept specifying specific designs to be evaluated by 
NASA, and NASA kept arguing against the technical ability of OMB to 
cost-design a shuttle system. 
 
   It was not until 3 January 1972 that the final approval for the 
Space Shuttle was communicated to NASA.  Appropriately enough, NASA 
had spent the holidays struggling to answer another set of detailed 
OMB questions, and had set a 14x45 foot payload bay as the minimum 
size for the shuttle.  To NASA's surprise, they were told the 15x60 
foot payload bay had been approved. 
  The decision to use solid rocket motors for the booster stage was 
made soon afterwards.  As part of the extensions of the Phase B 
contracts, numerous booster propulsion schemes had been examined. 
The major reason for the choice of solid rocket boosters was the 
development cost of the liquid boosters.  NASA specifically chose to 
accept a higher recurring cost and a complex operations flow, to 
reduce the projected development cost.  Reusable cryo tanks were 
also rejected on the basis of a higher development cost and 
increased technical risk, although they had a lower recurring cost.  
OMB director George Schultz said "NASA is to be congratulated for 
its willingness to examine a wide range of alternatives to find a 
configuration which retains system capability but which reduces the 
amount of investment required." (Ref: Letter from George Schultz to 
Jame Fletcher, 17 March 1972, NASA historical archives) 
 
  In March of 1972, a "request for proposals" was released to the 
industry for the specified space shuttle system.  It had all of the 
elements of the current design - 15X60 payload bay volume, cross 
range of 1100 nmi, 65,000 pound payload capability, large external 
tank, and dual solid rocket boosters.  4 teams of companies replied 
- each with a proposal of 2000+ pages. These were MDAC, Grumman, 
North American Rockwell, and Lockheed.   Of these, North American 
Rockwell was chosen, and contract NAS 9-14000 to design, develop, 
test, and construct the space shuttle was let in late 1972. 
 
   Between 1972 and 1980, the funding profile for the program 
changed dramatically - annual budgets for the phase C/D contract 
effort changed yearly.  Each year the effort had to be replanned and 
rephased by NASA and the contractors.  The expected 5 year contract 
                                                (Cont)
 
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Article: 866
From: [email protected] (Wales Larrison)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.space
Subject: Shuttle Development History (6 of 6)
Date: 18 Jan 92 23:14:58 GMT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)
 
was stretched by Congress to 7, then 9 years.  The number of 
vehicles to be built changed from 10 (1972) to 5 (1975)  to 4 (1976) 
to 1 (1977) to 4 (1978) again, and the fleet delivery schedule 
stretched out from 1 every 6 months to 1 every 2 years.  Each year 
the contracts for delivery of parts and materials had to be 
renegotiated with subcontractors and vendors.  This doubled or 
tripled the expected program costs.  (Rockwell claimed after 51-L 
that a block buy of 3 orbiters can be made for the price of 2 - if 
the dollars were allocated up front so they could effectively 
negotiate with their suppliers).  
   Meanwhile, the NASA budget continued to shrink.  In constant 1972 
dollars, the NASA budget shrank from $3.2 billion in 1971 to $2.4 
billion in 1978.  As the budgets decreased, new programs that had 
been expected to provide the majority of the payloads to be carried 
on the shuttle were eliminated or severely cut back.  Since these 
programs were not yet established, or not even in existence, they 
could not defend themselves against budget cuts. This created the 
vicious spiral of: few missions - high cost transportation - high 
cost missions - more importance on fewer missions - fewer, more 
costly missions - higher cost transportation - ... 
 
  And it is from this "death spiral" that we are trying to extract 
our national space program.  The Challenger accident, the failure of 
the few alternative launch systems, and the increased attention given 
to space by the public are all working to extract us from  this.  
   Hope you folks find this interesting.  I had fun putting it 
together.                              (Finis) 
 
   Editorial commentary:  I have to agree with some of the other 
folks - much (I'd say about 60%) of the problems with the shuttle 
came from the external constraints on the design of the system 
imposed by Congress and OMB - which always focused on reducing the 
annual budgetary cost at the expense of higher operating costs.  In 
my opinion, NASA did a pretty good job at doing the best design they 
could get for the budget they were handed, and considering the 
changes and micromanaging of the budget that were mandated on them. 
  (P.S. - it would be interesting to rewrite Allen's "Boat 
construction" analogy to match historical actions.  Any takers?) 
  The other 40% of blame I place on NASA who did not take the policy 
of initially focusing on running the shuttle as a test and 
developmental program, and who have not pursued an agressive shuttle 
improvements and upgrades program to fix what has been identified as 
wrong with the shuttle to decrease operating costs, improve 
turnaround flow, and improve reliability.  And another, different, 
rassberry to NASA for not getting out of the operational 
transportation business as soon as possible. I believe the shuttle 
could be operated for about 50% of the current operating cost, if 
done by a commercial firm on an incentive basis.  
   But the big question we have to ask, is if this type of OMB and 
Congressionally micromanaged development project will be the norm 
for future space developments?  Look at SSF and the congressional 
design and operational conditions and approaches laid upon the Space 
Station program, and consider what has happened with the shuttle.  
Will this change for the next launch system?  What can we do to 
avoid this problem for any future launch systems?  (Like NLS, like 
NASP, like PLS/AMLS, like the SSTO?)  How can we do Lunar/Mars 
exploration and settlement in this environment? 
   Discussion, anyone? 
 
------------------------------------------------------------------
Wales Larrison                          Space Technology Investor
 
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685.3The Shuttle lavatoryVERGA::KLAESQuo vadimus?Fri Sep 10 1993 14:0234
Article: 14996
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: [email protected] (George Hastings)
Subject: Re: Toilet Question
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 93 01:22:32 GMT
 
Perhpas this should go to the Space Trivia thread.  But anyway, since
I'm here: 

   The toilet seat is MUCH smaller than a conventional one, and there
is... how shall I put this delicately? ...an alignment problem!
Astronauts must train to get their anatomy properly lined up with the
somewhat small opening. 

   This is a private, train-yourself process. I understand that there
is a mockup of the shuttle toilet facility, where the astronauts
practice positioning. The mockup is not fully functional. In order to
provide feedback for learning how to sense correct "docking", in place
of the "chopper mechanism" there is a closed-circuit TV camera,
pointing UP! The image is displayed ONLY on a monitor in front of the
astronaut using the trainer. 

   I have been told that trainees affectionately call this facility...   
you guessed it!!!....The MOON-ROOM! 
 
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