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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

673.0. "Marshall Space Flight Centre." by 42326::MOUNTFORD () Fri Nov 23 1990 11:51

    I am planning the itinary of my 1991 vacation through the US Southern
    states and would be very interested in visiting the Marshall Space
    Flight Centre in Huntsville Alabama. I have searched this conference
    for the title but to no avail.
    
    Q. 1.Could someone enlighten me as to whether it is visitable?
    Q. 2.What sort of work goes on there?
    Q. 3.Is this the same place that operates the Spacecamp?
    Q. 4. can anybody provide details of Spacecamp                                     
    Q. 5. My route is roughly Atlanta-Helen (GA), Knoxville, Huntsville
    	  Little Rock, New Orleans, Orlando, Atlanta. Are there any
    	  other Space type places on that route, apart from Cape Canaveral
    	  and Huntsville?
    
    				Any help greatly appreciated.
    
    Richard (CSC Basingstoke England).                                                              
    
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673.1Marshall Space Flight Center8826::wherryStorage ArchitectureWed Nov 28 1990 01:2859
>    states and would be very interested in visiting the Marshall Space
>    Flight Centre in Huntsville Alabama. I have searched this conference

Having returned last week from SpaceCamp some of this is still fresh on my mind.
First off, unless you *know* somebody you just can't go out to Marshall.  You
have to go through the Nasa Visitor Center which is NOT  colocated with the
Marshall Space Flight Center.

>    
>    Q. 1.Could someone enlighten me as to whether it is visitable?
        Yes, the official Nasa Visitor center at the Space and Rocket
        Center have tours going out there daily (I think.)  I will try
        and get the telephone number for you.

>    Q. 2.What sort of work goes on there?

        Marshall is located on the grounds of the Redstone Arsenal (U.S. Army).
        This was where many of the rocket engines were developed and where
        most (if not all) were tested.  A lot of work for the "ever shrinking
        space station" FREEDOM is done at Marshall or with contractors who have
        offices located in Huntsville (MacDac, Lockheed, United Tech,
Loral, etc                 
        etc).  Marshall also has one of the larger Neutral Bouyancy tanks that
        NASA owns.  (The largest is at JSC I think.)  Depending on what mission
        training is going on there you may or may not get to see it.  As an
        aside most of the German Rocket Scientists have lived (or still are) in
        Huntsville.  W. Von Braun lived in Huntsville and worked at Marshall.
        I got to attend a lecture by one of them while I was at Space Academy.

>    Q. 3.Is this the same place that operates the Spacecamp?
        No, not really.  Marshall is a NASA facility.  SpaceCamp/Space Academy
        are run by "The Space and Rocket Center".  Spacecamp is mostly for
        kids, Space Academy is for teenagers and Adults.  (The new 8 day level
        II is gonna be awesome, folks! I had a blast testing it!).  There
        are adult sessions which run from Thursday night till Sunday noon.  On
        Saturday and Sunday there is often an Astronaut or former astronaut
        giving a lecture for an hour or so.  If you attend SA you will most
        likely get to see the Blue Planet in the OmniMax Theatre.  I don't 
        believe it will be shown to the public till sometime in 1991 at the
        space and rocket center. 

>    Q. 4. can anybody provide details of Spacecamp                    
                
        yes.  I will do so in the Space Camp note.

>    Q. 5. My route is roughly Atlanta-Helen (GA), Knoxville, Huntsville
>    	  Little Rock, New Orleans, Orlando, Atlanta. Are there any
>    	  other Space type places on that route, apart from Cape Canaveral
>    	  and Huntsville?
>    
        do you mean the Kennedy Space Center or Cape Canaveral Air
Force Station.  they are two different places and I don't thnk the AFS has tours.
If you can sneak a flight to Houston I know it is possible to arrange tours of
JSC.  Also, if you can get to Washington DC, Goddard and
Wallups Island are good places to visit (though wallups is a good 4 hour drive
from DC).

>    				Any help greatly appreciated.
>
673.2STAR::HUGHESYou knew the job was dangerous when you took it Fred.Wed Nov 28 1990 11:4010
    You used to be able to tour some of Canaveral AFS. The alternatives
    were a bus tour on weekdays that stops at the museum/display area and
    the blockhouse for the original Saturn I launch complex. On Sundays you
    could drive yourself around the same basic tour minus the blockhouse,
    but you could spend as much time as you wanted in the museum/display. I
    did both, mostly to spend a lot of time photographing the various
    missiles in the display area (and to wander into a few places I
    probably wasn't supposed to be).
    
    gary
673.3Visit us while your here, too!34677::AARONMake it so.Wed Nov 28 1990 16:3853
I work in the Huntsville office, just about a mile from the Space and Rocket
Center and 7 from the heart of Marshall.  If you want to just see the sights
via a tour bus, you can always do that through the visitor's center as referred
to in .1, but we're on the arsenal all day every day.  I'm sure that we could
come up with an excuse for bringing another Digit out there to see how US
Civil Servants work.  8^)  (Bringing your family may be a different story!)

"Marshall does motors" probably covers the everyday type things that they do
out here.  Once every couple of months we get a SME test that usually lasts for
a few seconds, but occasionally you'll hear one go for at least 2 minutes.  In
the old Saturn V days, they used to have to be careful of the weather
characteristics as they were known to blow out windows in Birmingham, 90 miles
away!  (This led to the development of the world's largest and most powerful
speaker system, capable of blowing holes through foot thick concrete.  The
system was used to test the atmospheric conditions between here and Birmingham
to see if they should postpone the test!!!)

The neutral buoyancy tank is _the_ largest in the world.  Johnson's is just
more politicized.  The tank is over 32' deep, requiring a decompression chamber
in it!  It is large enough to hold a full size mockup of the Hubble Space
Telescope _inside_ a mockup of a shuttle cargo bay!

Which leads me to some other things MSFC does: Hubble, Space Lab integration, 
Freedom, Shuttle-C, materiels processing and motors (e.g., the first 2 minutes 
of each shuttle launch are monitored by a VAXcluster here to watch the SRB 
performance, and the Advanced Solid Rocket Motor (ASRM) is being managed out of 
here).

Information is available from both the Space and Rocket Center and MSFC from
the following addresses:

	Space and Rocket Center
	1 Tranquility Base
	Huntsville, AL  USA  35805
	(205) 837-7400

	George C. Marshall Space Flight Center
	Public Affairs Office
	Marshall Space Flight Center, AL  USA  35812
	(205) 544-0038

Other points of space interest along your route would include the Iuka, 
Mississippi ASRM plant (still under construction, but we've got residents
out there who might be able to get you more info), the Slidell Computer Complex
in Slidell, Louisiana, and the John C. Stennis Space Center where they do
more motor testing.

If you'd like to get in touch with me about any more information (I could
always scan in a brochure and EMail it to you or put it here in the notes
file), drop me a line at SNOMAN::AARON (aka Aaron Sakovich @HVO).

Have a great trip -- stop in the office when you get here!
Aaron
673.4cool!2319::SAUTERJohn SauterThu Nov 29 1990 08:163
    The speaker system sounds neat!  Just the thing for a rock group.
    Be good publicity for NASA as well.
        John Sauter
673.5Thanks...42326::MOUNTFORDMon Dec 03 1990 04:147
    I've just got back o the office after a week's training! Many thanks
    for all the replies on this subject. It was certainly enlightening
    to understand what actually happens at Marshall, that speaker system
    sounds incredible, reminds of the walls of Jerico(sp), Von Danikan
    et al.  Aaron, I would certainly like to take up your offer of a
    visit to Marshal! it would be fantastic. I'll mail you to discuss
    it, many thanks again, Richard.