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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

586.0. "Japanese buys MIR space station" by HYDRA::BIRO () Wed Dec 13 1989 09:18

 
APf  12/12 0928  Japan-Space Station
 
Copyright, 1989. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 
   TOKYO (AP) -- A Japanese company that helps plan seminars on
   space said Tuesday that it has bought a space station from the
   Soviet Union for $10 million. Yutaka Horie, president of the
   Horie Group, said his company puchased the grounded station
   from the Soviet space agency, Glavkosmos. It originally was
   built as a backup for the Mir station that was launched in
   February 1986 and still orbits the Earth. The Soviets
   displayed the backup station at World Design Expo, held from
   July 15 to Nov. 26 in Nagoya in central Japan, Horie said. He
   said his company bought the station as a symbol of
   international cooperation in space, and that he will consult
   with space experts on what to do with it. Soviet Embassy
   officials could not be reached immediately for comment. Kyodo
   News Service quoted unidentified Soviet sources as saying the
   sale was meant to promote cooperation in space research beteen
   Japan and the Soviet Union.
 
 
It was apparently originally designed as flight hardware, coulod
it still be flown???
 
    
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586.1You're kiding!VOSTOK::LEPAGECosmos---is my jobWed Dec 13 1989 10:4928
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    	Let me check my calendar... No, it's not April Fool's Day. If this
    news item is true, it would seem to be proof positive that the Soviet
    Union in general and its space program in particular are desperate for 
    hard Western currency and that the Japanese are on a mindless shopping
    spree. What in the world are the Japanese going to do with this alleged 
    backup Mir? If it is a backup (to answer the previous noter's question)
    it should be space worthy or at least be capable of being made so. But
    so what; the Japanese have no way to launch it themselves nor do they
    have the capability to send crews or any sensible cargo. In
    addition, I would dare say that Mir's systems (especially electronic)
    are very crude by Japanese standards.
    	IMHO, one of two different things will happen (assuming that this
    item is NOT a hoax):
    
    1) The Japanese are on the verge of a massive (and probably very
    profitable) joint space program with the Soviets basicly thumbing their
    noses at the US, NASA, and the Freedom Space Station (which has proved
    to be one hell of a headache for all of the international partners
    including the Japanese). The center piece of this joint venture would
    involve this backup Mir.
    
    2) The Japanese are just going to put this backup Mir in a museum or
    make it into some sort of amusement park ride.
    
    					Drew
    
                                                           
586.2100 Million dollar space stationHYDRA::BIROWed Dec 13 1989 11:5010
    Think of it this way, 10Million for the station, 20Million to
    refurbush, 40Million for a Soviet Launch, 10Million per 
    person for taining, so for 100Million you can have your
    space station, not a bad deal.  Most likly you could not
    do the proposal in the U.S. for that kind of change.
    
    john
    
    ps if not, it sure would make a nice attaction at Disney Land Japan
    
586.3VCSESU::COOKHouse of SufferingWed Dec 13 1989 13:296
    
    Next thing you know Donald Trump will have his own space station. 8-)
    
    100 million would be a drop in the bucket for him.
    
    -The Cookster
586.4PAXVAX::MAIEWSKIWed Dec 13 1989 16:108
  It would be interesting to know if they are taking possession and
moving it to JAPAN or if they just bought it as part of a deal where
by they give the Soviet's lots of money for future cooperation in
joint space ventures.

  Could by a by/lease back type of thing.

  George
586.5Let's get NASA in the bidding...DECWIN::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Thu Dec 14 1989 11:478
Sounds like a good deal.  Maybe NASA should offer them a couple Gigabucks for
it, and do the same for the Soviets to refurbish and launch it.  The Japanese
would make a good profit, the Soviets would get a big wad of hard currency, and
NASA would save big on Station Freedom.

Maybe not so :-)

Burns
586.6they bought a KVANT tooHYDRA::BIROThu Dec 14 1989 14:276
Komsomolskaya Pravda said that not only did the Japanese trade
firm by a MIR exhibition mockup but they also bought a space
module KVANT from the USSR Glavkosmos organization for 2.5 Million 
U.S. dollars

    
586.7The LatestVOSTOK::LEPAGECosmos---is my jobTue Jan 09 1990 11:457
    	I've got some more info on the Japanese purchase. They bought a
    "high fidelity ground engineering mockup" and not an actual flight
    unit. It appears that the intention of the Japanese is to study the
    model to gain some insight in space station design.
    
    				Drew