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583.1 | Good libraries will also have this info | RENOIR::KLAES | N = R*fgfpneflfifaL | Tue Dec 05 1989 07:42 | 7 |
| SPACE Topic 417 lists Soviet rocket boosters. Typing the command
DIR/TITLE=topicname (replace topicname with rocket, launch, or booster)
will help you to find information on a number of U.S. rockets in this
Conference. Also, try the command SHOW KEYWORD/FULL.
Larry
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583.2 | France's Diamant rockets | VERGA::KLAES | Quo vadimus? | Thu Jul 22 1993 18:42 | 102 |
| Article: 67732
From: [email protected] (Carl Rigg)
Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: Re: Info about old Diamant wanted
Date: 22 Jul 93 04:51:30 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Dave
Michelson) writes:
|> Newsgroups: sci.space
|> From: [email protected] (Dave Michelson)
|> Subject: Re: Info about old Diamant wanted
|> Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
|> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1993 02:19:29 GMT
|>
|> In article <[email protected]>, andreas@black_uster
|> (Andreas Forrer) writes:
|> >
|> > I'm looking for ANY kind of information about a French rocket called
|> > "Diamant BP-4" from 1975. Any hint is welcome, including pointers to
|> > possible sources.
|>
|>
|> * 1962 -- France forms the Centre National d'Etudes Spatales and work
|> begins on Diamant booster
|>
|> * 1965 -- France launches a 40 kg satellite from Hammaguit, Algeria
|> using a Diamant
|>
|> * 1967 -- France moves launch operations to Kourou in French Guiana
|> and work begins on Diamant B
|>
|> * 1970 -- First flight of Diamant B (carrying a West German satellite)
|>
|> * 1972 -- Work begins on Diamant BP-4
|>
|> * 1975 -- First flight of Diamant BP-4 (carrying a geodetic satellite)
|>
|>
|> Diamant BP-4 Specifications
|> ===========================
|>
|> * designed to lift 200 kg into
|> a low earth orbit with an altitude
|> of 186 miles
|>
|> ---------------------------
|>
|> Valois First Stage
|>
|> Thrust: 88,200 lb
|>
|> Fuel: UDMH
|> Oxidizer: N2O4
|>
|> ---------------------------
|>
|> Rita 1 Second Stage
|>
|> Thrust: 39,690 lb
|>
|> Solid Fuel
|>
|> * derived from the upper stage of
|> the French MSBS fleet balistic missile
|>
|> * solid fuel verniers and Freon injection
|> for thrust vector control
|>
|> ----------------------------
|>
|> Rubis Third Stage (?) (assuming that the Diamant third stage was used
|> as is on the Diamant BP-4)
My information shows that the Rubis P-0.7 was used on Diamant and that
Rubis P-0.6 was used on Diamant B and BP-4.
The difference between the B and the BP-4 was the replacement of the Topaze
second stage by the P-4 RITA 1 second stage.
The only common stage between the Diamant and the Diamant B was the
Topaze second stage. Diamants first stage was an Emeraude and stage 3 was
Rubis P-0.7.
thanks
Carl
|>
|> Thrust: 11,685 lb
|>
|> Solid Fuel
|>
|> -----------------------------
|>
|> Hope this gets you started....
|>
|>
|> --
|> Dave Michelson -- [email protected] -- University of British Columbia
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583.3 | RE 583.2 | VERGA::KLAES | Quo vadimus? | Thu Jul 29 1993 13:58 | 29 |
| Article: 68137
Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: Re: Info about old Diamant wanted
From: [email protected] (Russell Mcmahon)
Date: 27 Jul 93 10:07:11 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
Bill - could you pass this on when the originator turns up with an
address - I am a few thousand kms away and a day or 2 transmission
delay. (Scrap if better data comes to hand)
The following is from the STW toolworks encyclopedia CDROM and is
sourced by Kenneth gatland (no surprise).
Diamant is a 3 staged rocket that was the mainstay of the french
national space program between 1965 and 1973. The earlist version was
Doiamant A, 18.9 m tall weight 18.4 tonne, capable of pl;acing 79.4 Kg
into a 300 Km equatorial orbit. The 1st stage thrust was 66,000 lb for
93 seconds. The second and third stages were solid propellant based.
Diamant B had a new liquid fuel 1st stage and was launched from Kourou
in French Guiana. Payload = 254 lb.
Diamant BP4 increased orbital payload to 441 lb. Stage 1 thrust 77000 to
88000 lb, stage 2 was solid propellant usin a motor from the French
ballistic program and stage 3 used the same motor as Diamant B.
Hope this is of use. STW CDROM also has lots of other snippets on oldish
space launchers.
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583.4 | Launch Vehicles Propellant Fractions Data | VERGA::KLAES | Quo vadimus? | Fri Feb 18 1994 21:54 | 33 |
| Article: 83165
From: [email protected] (Dani Eder)
Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: Re: Launch Vehicle Propellant Fractions Data
Date: 17 Feb 94 19:45:23 GMT
Organization: Boeing AI Center, Huntsville, AL
Figures are for the 1st liquid stage, which is more relevant for SSTO
discussions (2nd stages don't have to have thrust/weight >1.0, so they
may no have enough engine for a good comparison). Data from AIAA
Intl. Ref. Guide to Space Launch Systems, 1991
Country Vehicle Total Stage Propellant Fraction
(klb) (klb)
China CZ-2E 433 412 0.951
Europe Ariane 4 553 514 0.929
Russia Zenit 778 703 0.904
USA Atlas II 365.3 344.5 0.943
Delta 6925 223.8 211.3 0.944
Titan IV 359 340 0.947
Saturn V 4872 4584 0.941
Hypothetical vehicle consisting of 5 uprated SSME's attached to ET:
STS-derived 1705 1589 0.932
Dani Eder
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