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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

518.0. "Trident II testing" by TEKTRM::REITH (Jim Reith DTN 235-8459 HANNAH::REITH) Wed Mar 22 1989 08:19

CNN ran a story about the Trident II test failure along with footage.

Current testing was stated at 15 of 18 successful ground based launches with
this failure being the first underwater launch.

The footage showed the Trident II breaking free of the water but becoming 
unstable upon engine ignition and spiraling in midair until (I assume) being 
self-destructed.

They had footage of a Russian intelligence boat present and closed with some 
official "soapboxing" about another extravigant waste of the taxpayers money.
I believe they also quoted program development costs of $35 billion
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518.1That was some cartwheel!HPSRAD::DZEKEVICHWed Mar 22 1989 08:376
    NBC News showed the launch last night.  Boy, that was an impressive
    cartwheel.  I've never seen a missle do a cartwheel.  NBC reported
    the the missle self-destructed (ie no outside command).
    
    Joe
    
518.2Pershing I had a similar failure...CLOSUS::J_BUTLERLeave it better than you found it...Wed Mar 22 1989 08:4611
    The film of the Trident failure was almost identical to an early
    launch in the U.S. Army's Pershing I missile program. The Pershing
    failure was determined to be caused by fin/jet vane actuators having
    been mis-wired. When the G&C (Guidance & Computer) section sent
    course correction signals, the fins and vanes moved in the opposite
    direction from that which was intended. The accelerometers continued
    to sense the direction, the G&C continued to send corrections, and
    the Pershing looped almost identically to yesterday's Trident.
    
    In Pershing's case, the error was costly, but relatively easy to
    fix. 
518.3SESSPARITY::BIROWed Mar 22 1989 10:266
    did they say the name of the Soviet Survalance Boat
    if not do you have it video taped and can you read
    the cyrillic name
    
    thanks john
    
518.4STAR::HUGHESWed Mar 22 1989 11:5918
    There wasn't enough detail in the picture to make out names. In fact,
    to me it looked just like the US tracking ship, the Redstone. But thats
    probably because its the only one I've seen close up. Whatever, it had
    a couple of large radomes... I thought all Soviet surveillance ships
    were made up to look like fishing trawlers :-)
    
    I would not trust the news services to differentiate between the
    missile being destroyed by the Range Safety Officer or by internal
    guidance command.
    
    FWIW, it looked to me like it had no thrust vector control. There is
    usually some tipoff as sub-launched missiles break the surface which
    requires immediate correction upon engine start. I watched the footage
    about 6 times and didn't observe anything that looked like the missile
    was trying to correct. 
    
    gary
                           
518.5AGIsPARITY::BIROTue Mar 28 1989 08:5735
According to the 27 of March issue of Aviation Week
the Soviet Electronic Intelligence ship which are designated
as AGIs that observed the 21 March Trident 2 launch was
one of four new ones of the Balzam class.

The Ships hull number was CCB-571, and is one of four Balzam 
class ships that  are now operating.  It is a desel-powered
ship with a displacement of 5000 tons and a top speed of 
20 Knt.  The ships are sometime armed with two SA-N-5
short range anitaircraft launchers, each with four missiles.  
The surface to Air missile has a range of about 3nm and are 
normally found on Ropucha (amphibious ship) , Polnocy 
(amphibious ship) and some AGIs platforms


They are manned by naval personnel, fly the Soviet Navel Ensign,
and are easily identified by their varied and unusual electronic
antennas.  Some of the AGis are of modified trawler design,
and a number are built for the purpose of intelligence "factories."
The latter of the PRIMORYE class displace about 4000 tons.  The 
newer large AGI, the BALZAM class, joined the Soviet fleet in 1980.
The BALZAM have a displacement of over 5000 tons not 4000 tons as
mention in the AW article.  In fact the hull number were riding
low in the water so it much have had extra equipment aboard.

Soviet AGI-type ships keep watch off of the US missile submarine base
of Holy Loch Scotland , and Guam in the Marianas.  AGI also
operates off the Southeastern coast of the United states in
positions that permits surveillance of submarine bases at
Charleston, South Carolina, or Kings Bay, Georgia; and aircraft carrier
off of Virginia or Florida; or the missile activity at Cape Kennedy.
AGIs regularly dog NATO and US naval force during exercise and
are usually present in most Soviet United State naval confrontations.