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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

501.0. "Robert Goddard, Rocket Pioneer" by MTWAIN::KLAES (No guts, no Galaxy...) Tue Jan 24 1989 14:08

        Robert H. Goddard is looked upon as one of the three founders 
    of modern rocketry, along with Konstantin Tsilovsky of the Soviet 
    Union, and Herman Oberth of Germany.  What makes Goddard stand out 
    is that he went beyond theoretical rocket designs and actually built 
    working models.  In fact Goddard launched the first liquid-fueled 
    rocket (the forerunner to most rockets used in today's various space 
    programs) in Auburn, Massachusetts in 1926.  The flight lasted just 
    2.5 seconds, reaching an altitude of 41 feet and landing (crashing, 
    actually) 184 feet from the launch site, which happened to be located 
    in his aunt's garden.  Today the launch site is commemorated with a 
    small monument surrounded by a busy street and numerous stores.

        Goddard was one of those misunderstood geniuses who was - if
    you'll pardon the cliche - ahead of his time.  As a boy in the 1880s,
    he was dreaming of sending spacecraft to orbit and photograph the 
    planet Mars at a time when most people didn't even know what Mars was 
    (and sadly this is still true in many cases today).  His mother 
    caught him one time trying to fly by jumping off a fence with an 
    electrical "flying device" attached to his back.  She half-humorously 
    warned him to be careful, or he'd end up flying off into space.

        Goddard taught physics at Worcester State University, and 
    tried to keep his work on rockets funded through grants from the 
    Smithsonian Institution and by attempting to sell the military 
    (particularly the Army) on the idea of rockets being used as weapons.
    The idea of rockets for space travel was not to be taken seriously 
    in the early part of the Twentieth Century.

        Goddard did eventually decide to publish a paper on his rocket 
    concepts, which he entitled "A Method of Reaching Extreme Altitudes",
    that was placed in the Smithsonian's Miscellaneous files.  Goddard
    tried very hard to be conservative with his ideas, so that they would 
    not be considered outlandish and rejected, thus losing his already 
    meager sources of funding.  He detailed a plan for launching a small, 
    unmanned rocket that would be sent to Earth's Moon, wherein it would 
    strike the surface and cause its payload of flash powder to explode, 
    indicating to observers on Earth that the rocket had reached its 
    destination.  Goddard didn't dare mention flights to Mars.

        The paper did not go unnoticed, but it brought about the kind 
    of attention Goddard did not want at all:  The newspapers grabbed 
    his ideas and practically announced that the Massachusetts scientist 
    would be sending a manned expedition to the Moon within a few years,
    though one, the prestigious NEW YORK TIMES, dismissed Goddard's idea 
    and said that he didn't even possess an elementary knowledge of physics; 
    but it was the TIMES which were wrong, though they did not make a 
    retraction until the day APOLLO 11 landed men on the Moon in July of 
    1969!  Mary Pickford, the famous actress, asked if she could put a 
    letter in the non-existant Moon rocket; one guy asked Goddard that if 
    he paid the ten thousand dollars for the insurance, he would fly either 
    to the Moon or Mars (Goddard's choice) without any other provisions.  

        Goddard was a very private man, and this overblown attention was 
    his worst nightmare.  He later commented that he should have written 
    about his plans for a Mars mission, as then it would have been deemed 
    ridiculous and he would have been left in peace.  It also came close 
    to causing him to lose his funding, but in reality the publicity was 
    a blessing in disguise.

        In 1929, a particularly loud rocket test had neighbors believing
    an airplane had crashed, so they called the police and fire department, 
    who rushed to the scene, only to find Goddard with a wrecked rocket.  
    The press had also shown up, and had a field day with the incident:
    One of the most painful headlines told about Goddard's rocket missing 
    the Moon by only 240,000 miles.  The reality was that it was just 
    another rocket test meant to be flown only a few hundred feet into 
    the air at best.  After this accident, Goddard was asked by the local 
    authorities not to fly rockets in Massachusetts again, as it was 
    deemed far too dangerous, particularly in a residential area (this 
    was a legitimate concern).

        Goddard might have given up, except that Charles Lindberg -
    who had gotten rather famous for crossing the Atlantic Ocean on 
    his own a few years earlier - decided to fund Goddard and move his 
    entire operation to the New Mexico desert (a prelude of sorts to 
    all the rocket tests which would be done in the following decades).
    Here Goddard did some of his best work, testing parachute systems
    to recover rockets and their payloads, testing stabilizing fins to 
    keep rockets flying straight, and even putting meteorological 
    instruments aboard some flights to study the weather.  The man who 
    wrote about rockets to the Moon never got any of his rockets higher 
    than 7,500 feet, but distance was not the most important aspect of
    his rocket development.

        Despite all this work, Goddard and his rockets were actually little 
    known to the American public, and many of his ideas went unrecognized 
    until almost a decade after his death in 1945.  Ironically, his ideas 
    did not go unnoticed to the Germans, particularly Wernher von Braun, 
    who took Goddard's ideas from various journals and used them to build 
    the A-4 series of rockets, better known as V-2.  The Army also adopted 
    only one major facet of Goddard's concepts in his lifetime, the bazooka.

        Goddard also had other far-reaching ideas, which he felt were 
    not ready for a public that couldn't handle simple rocket flights to 
    the Moon, so he had them sealed up in an envelope in his vault, not 
    to be opened for fifty years after his death.  Fortunately for history, 
    they were opened much sooner than that, and what his letter stated
    revealed just how far-sighted Goddard was.  In this letter, Goddard 
    discussed about what the human race would do in the distant future 
    (five billion years, scientists now estimate) when Earth's Sun would
    begin to expand into a red giant star and envelope Earth, vaporizing 
    it along with Mercury and Venus.  Goddard proposed that humanity use 
    its no doubt advanced skills to construct habitats inside large 
    planetoids (asteroids) and then propel them out of the Solar System 
    using some distant descendants of his primitive rockets to other
    star systems, where humans could find new planets to live on.

        Today, Goddard's thoughts on saving humanity by sending them to 
    other star systems would be considered little more than a well-used 
    science fiction plotline, but perhaps like the spacecraft to Mars,
    interstellar travel (hopefully long, long before the demise of our 
    star) - the ultimate logical step in the exploration of the Universe - 
    will also become a reality, all because of Robert Goddard.

        Larry Klaes

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501.1I've also seen the New Mexico site but don't remember the directions...TYCHO::REITHJim Reith DTN 235-8459 - HANNAH::REITHTue Jan 24 1989 14:534
For people in New England, the Goddard Memorial is in Auburn MA on Route 12 in
front of the Auburn Mall. Exit 10 off the Mass Pike or the Mall exit off route
290. A full size model of his rocket can be seen on the lawn of the library 
there.
501.3More Goddard HistoryLEVERS::HUGHESTANSTAAFLTue Jan 24 1989 16:0016
    Sorry about the previous, the network dropped me in mid-note.
    
    Re .-2 The Goddard memorial in Auburn MA.
    
    My old alma-mater, the Worcester Polytechnic Institute has a collection of
    Goddard material and is just down Rt 290 from Auburn in Worcester MA.
    There was a large photo montage outside the mechanical engineering lecture
    hall showing one of Goddards later rockets in cutaway, full size.  They
    also had tanks, pumps and so on in glass cases.  I doubt the display is
    still there after all this time but you never know.  If anyone is really
    interested I'd suggest they call the library there. 
    
    (WPI was also known as the Worcester Pyrotechnic Institute; there were
    a number of us rocket freaks there.)
    
    Mike H
501.4Favorite WPI headline - Engineers master BatesTYCHO::REITHJim Reith DTN 235-8459 - HANNAH::REITHWed Jan 25 1989 07:209
My wife and I both went to WhoopieTech in the late 70's too. There was a lot of
Goddard stuff there but you tripped over it all over campus. Never really 
organized into an exhibit. Seems they could put together a pretty good exhibit 
and raise so money from other than "Alumni donations". A lot of the stuff was
stored in the Washburn Shops and in Stratton during renovations. Ah, the good
old days in Morgan Dorm...

I'm sure the WPI library has a better than average collection of his research 
papers for those interested.
501.5Books on Robert Goddard and his workMTWAIN::KLAESNo guts, no Galaxy...Mon Jan 30 1989 11:4014
    	Milton Lehman's 1963 biography on Goddard, THIS HIGH MAN, was
    reprinted in 1988 by Da Capo Press, New York, with the title ROBERT 
    H. GODDARD: PIONEER OF SPACE RESEARCH, ISBN 0-306-80331-3 (paperback). 

        Anne Perkins Dewey, ROBERT GODDARD: SPACE PIONEER, Little, Brown 
    and Company, Boston, 1962, Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 
    62-8309 (hardcover).
    
    	Another book (actually a multi-volume work) on Goddard's work
    is THE PAPERS OF ROBERT H. GODDARD, edited by G. Edward Pendray
    and Esther C. Goddard (his late wife), McGraw-Hill, New York, 1970.
    
    	Larry
    
501.6Goddard at Clark as wellHAVOC::WESSELSHunting the ultimate personal nameFri Feb 10 1989 12:4711
    	Clark University, also in Worcester, has an exhibit on Goddard
    in the "basement" (ground floor) of the Robert H. Goddard Library.
    It seems that he taught at both Clark and WPI.
    	Incidentally, the Goddard Library is one of the strangest buildings
    you will ever see.  Except for the rare book area and reading room,
    the entire building is basically built one story off the ground,
    appropriately enough, and has various odd protrusions/appendages/
    what-have-you.  We used to call it the Goddard Galactica.  :-)
    
    	Brian W.
    
501.7It really is a small worldMTWAIN::KLAESN = R*fgfpneflfifaLTue Feb 14 1989 09:3013
    	The following is from page 165 of THE SPACE PROGRAM QUIZ AND
    FACT BOOK by Timothy B. Benford and Brian Wilkes, Harper and Row
    Publishers, New York, 1985, ISBN 0-06-096005-1 (paperback, $8.95):
    
    	Q:  Who introduced Lindberg to Goddard?
    
    	A:  One of Goddard's students and a former associate of the
    Wright Brothers:  Edwin Aldrin, Sr., father of our second Moonwalker
    [Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin, Jr., who landed on the Moon with Neil Armstrong
    in APOLLO 11 on July 20, 1969].
    
    	Larry
    
501.8If you slice your shot, you might hit it...CADSYS::DIPACEAlice DiPaceTue Feb 14 1989 21:5620
re:           <<< Note 501.0 by MTWAIN::KLAES "No guts, no Galaxy..." >>>
>                      -< Robert Goddard, Rocket Pioneer >-
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>    in his aunt's garden.  Today the launch site is commemorated with a 
>    small monument surrounded by a busy street and numerous stores.

Having grown up in that area, would like to comment that the
memorial in front of the library near the now Auburn Mall, is just
that, a memorial.

The actual launch site and another, nicer memorial that is a replica of one of
his early rockets, is in the middle of Pakachoag Golf course, if memory serves
me correctly, between the 3rd and 4th hole.  Toted my father's golf bag
past the memorial many a time beleiving my father's lost ball had some how
followed the long since launched rocket....

Alice

Haven't been in the area for a few years, so don't know if the golf course
and memorial are still there. Would be a shame if they no longer were.
501.9LILAC::MKPROJREAGAN::ZORE I&#039;m the NRAThu Mar 09 1989 11:586
There is also a monument of some sort on Ft Devens, Ma to Robert Goddard.  
Seems he did some testing there too.  If you know where to look you can see 
it in among the trees as you drive down rt 2 east bound.  (Rt 2 goes thru 
the middle of Ft. Devens.)

Rich
501.10RE 501.9MTWAIN::KLAESN = R*fgfpneflfifaLThu Mar 09 1989 12:1518
    	Yes, Fort Devens is where Goddard was forced to test his rockets
    for a while in 1929, when an earlier test that same year in Worcester
    made such noise that neighbors thought a plane had crashed, and
    called the police and fire department.  After that incident, Goddard
    could no longer launch his rockets in a residential area (a wise
    precaution), and he had to test them at Hell Pond in Fort Devens
    (back then it was called Camp Devens), a desolate artillery range.
    
    	Goddard didn't stay there long, as Charles Lindberg helped to
    finance his tests out in Roswell, New Mexico, and Goddard worked
    there until his death in 1945.  Ironically, the place he launched
    his rockets in was called Eden Valley.
    
        BTW, do you (or anyone) know how to get direct access to the
    Goddard monument at Devens?  And what does look like and say?
    
    	Larry                                                    
    
501.11LILAC::MKPROJREAGAN::ZORE I&#039;m the NRAMon Apr 24 1989 13:0214
RE:< Note 501.10 by MTWAIN::KLAES "N = R*fgfpneflfifaL" >
    
>        BTW, do you (or anyone) know how to get direct access to the
>    Goddard monument at Devens?  And what does look like and say?
    
My memory is really vague at this point.  If we were in a car, I could take you 
there.  It's certainly accessable from in the base.  Closest entrance is 
Jackson gate on Rt 2.  If I remember corrctly it was at the end of a narrow 
blacktop road.  A simple concrete marker with a 20' high gantry that looked 
like the base of one of those radio/tv towers that some homes have was all 
that was there.  It may be gone now or it may have been enhanced.  It's 
existance wasn't even well known on the base.

Rich
501.12Goddard datesRENOIR::KLAESN = R*fgfpneflfifaLThu Aug 10 1989 14:1242
From: [email protected] (Andrew Higgins)
Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: Re: Robert Goddard question
Date: 9 Aug 89 02:43:59 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
 
    In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (N.
L. Sliker) writes: 

> I heard recently that Robert Goddard invented the rocket in 1914, though his
> early theories were published in 1919.  Does anyone have any idea when would
> be a good "anniversary day" for the idea or source for more information?
 
    Goddard considered his own "anniversary day" as October 19, 1899,
when, at the the age of seventeen, he decided to devote his life to
the attainment of space exploration. 
 
    Other important Goddard dates are:
 
October 5, 1882:    Robert Goddard born
 
December 28, 1909:  Goddard writes a summary of twenty-six methods "involving
                    means in space" including aero-braking, solar thermal and
                    solar electric propulsion, gravitational assists, and the
                    production of fuel on the lunar surface.
 
July 7, 1914:	    Goddard is issued patent No. 1,102,653 which covered the
                    essentials of rocket propulsion.
 
December 17, 1918:  Goddard submits "Results on a Method of Reaching Extreme
                    Altitudes" to Smithsonian Institution.
 
March 16, 1926:     Robert Goddard launches first liquid-propellant rocket.
--
 Andrew J. Higgins	          |     Illini Space Development Society
 [email protected]              |     a chapter of the National Space Society
 phone: (217) 359-0056/333-1608   |     at the University of Illinois
          P.O. Box 2255 - Station A, Champaign, IL  61825

 "The ability of man to walk and actually live on other worlds has virtually
  assured mankind immortality."	- Wernher von Braun

501.13Happy Birthday, Robert GoddardRENOIR::KLAESN = R*fgfpneflfifaLThu Oct 05 1989 12:416
    	On this date in 1882, Robert Goddard was born.  On October 4, 1857,
    Konstantin Tsilkovsky, the Soviet founder of modern rocketry, was born
    exactly one hundred years to the day when SPUTNIK 1 was launched.
    
    	Larry
                                             
501.1464 years ago todayWRKSYS::KLAESN = R*fgfpneflfifaLFri Mar 16 1990 07:529
    	On this date (March 16) in 1926, Robert Goddard launched the 
    first liquid-fueled rocket - the ancestor to most of today's modern
    boosters - from his Aunt Effie's property in Auburn, Massachusetts.  
    The flight lasted no more than 2.5 seconds and sailed only a dozen
    meters (41 feet) into the air, but it was more than enough to change 
    our future.
    
    	Larry
                                                                       
501.15directions to Ft. Devens Goddard memorialENGINE::PAULHUSChris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871Fri Mar 16 1990 12:5515
    re. .10 :  access to Ft. Devens Goddard Memorial
    
    	1. Get to the Hospital.
    	2. Leave the hospital heading west - the direction the parking lot
    		starts you at (don't do a U turn back towards the golf
    		course).
    	3. About 1/4 mile up the road (golf course on your right) a road
    		joins from your left - make a sharp left turn onto this
    		road. (This road runs parrallel and, in places, close to,
    		Rt. 2.)
	4. Go down the hill. About 1/4 mile from the turn there is a gravel
    		road on the right with a tiny sign that says "Goddard Memoral"
    		on it. Go down the gravel road about 500' to the memorial.
    
    	(I once led a bicycle club ride to the memorial.) - Chris
501.16Goddard Memorial Trophy for Dr. Lew AllenWRKSYS::KLAESN = R*fgfpneflfifaLMon Mar 19 1990 17:5130
Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: Goddard Trophy ceremony planned at White House (Forwarded)
Date: 19 Mar 90 16:55:40 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (Peter E. Yee)
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
 
David Garrett
Headquarters, Washington, D.C.                March 16, 1990
  
    RELEASE:  90-42
 
    GODDARD TROPHY CEREMONY PLANNED AT WHITE HOUSE
  
     Vice President Dan Quayle, in a special White House ceremony on
March 19, will make a special presentation of the Dr. Robert H.
Goddard Memorial Trophy to the 1990 winner Dr. Lew Allen, Director of
the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and Vice
President of the California Institute of Technology. 
 
     Dr. Allen received the 1990 award "For distinguished and
significant contributions to the Nation's advancement in space,
earlier by service with the Air Force and the strategic defense of 
the country, and currently by leadership with NASA in the assurance 
of United States preeminence in planetary exploration." 
 
     The Goddard Trophy, premier award of the National Space Club and
the aerospace industry, was established in 1958 and is presented each
year at the Goddard Memorial Dinner.  The recipient of this award is
selected annually by the Board of Governors of the National Space Club. 

501.17Goddard's 108th birthdayADVAX::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Fri Oct 05 1990 12:415
    	On this date, October 5, Robert Goddard was born in Massachusetts
    in 1882.
    
    	Larry
    
501.1865 years ago tomorrowADVAX::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Fri Mar 15 1991 10:577
    	Saturday, March 16, marks the sixty-fifth anniversary of Robert
    Goddard's launching of the world's first liquid-fueled rocket, the
    ancestor of all modern liquid-fueled booster.  The flight took place
    in Auburn, Massachusetts (near Worcester) and lasted only 2 seconds.
    
    	Larry
    
501.19Hardly anyone's ancestor15372::LEPAGEPumping IronyFri Mar 15 1991 13:0528
    Re:.18
    
    Larry,
    	I know that you and I have had this conversation before but...
    
    While Goddard may have been the first to launch a liquid fueled rocket
    and the first to develop many important systems that such rockets need,
    this rocket and Goddard's work can hardly be classified as "the
    ancestor of all modern liquid-fueled boosters". If one can view the
    family lineage of all modern rockets, not a single one can be traced
    directly or indirectly to Goddard's rockets. His branch of the rocket
    family tree died when he died leaving no offspring. This is primarily
    because of Goddard's highly secretive nature which developed as a
    result of the taunting he got from the press back in the 1920s. If
    there is one true ancestor to all of today's modern rockets it would
    more likely be von Braun's A-1 (the ancestor of the V-2) or one of his
    earlier prototypes. Virtually all Soviet launch vehicles (especially
    the A, C, and G class launchers) and American launch vehicles (especially
    the Saturn, Thor/Delta, and Juno families) can be directly traced back
    to von Braun's early work.
    	While Goddard's work definitely deserves a place in history because
    of its technical brillance and many firsts, its ultimate influence on the 
    development of rocket technology in the middle part of this century is, 
    IMHO, at best minimal and at worst highly over rated. Sorry Larry :-)
    
    
    				Drew
    
501.20PAXVAX::MAIEWSKIFri Mar 15 1991 18:0012
  I saw a special on Goddard's rocket on TV once. They claimed that it was very
similar to the V2 in the way it was built and the way it worked. I don't
believe they thought there was any connection between the projects but they
implied that there are certain obvious design decisions that designers of
simple liquid rocket are likely to make. 

  By the same token, I'm not sure if there is any direct link from the Wright
brothers bicycle shop to any major modern aircraft manufacturer. Is there
a company something like Wright/Patterson that does aircraft work? Are they
descended from the builders of the original Flyer?

  George
501.2146697::SIMMONSUNIX - All Implementations are exactly the same, only differentSun Mar 17 1991 15:2714
*                     <<< Note 501.20 by PAXVAX::MAIEWSKI >>>
*
*  I saw a special on Goddard's rocket on TV once. They claimed that it was very
*similar to the V2 in the way it was built and the way it worked. I don't

When I was a kid in elementary school I read a book about Robert Goddard's life
wherein the author mentioned Goddard's being laughed at by the US War Department
when he proposed using rockets are military devices.

After that it mentioned him receiving letters with lots of questions from
German scientists.



501.22110 years ago todayVERGA::KLAESAll the Universe, or nothing!Mon Oct 05 1992 11:226
    	On this date, October 5, in 1882, Robert H. Goddard was born in
    Worcester, Mass.  In 1926, he launched the world's first liquid-fueled
    rocket in Auburn. Mass.
    
    	Larry
    
501.23It wasn't Goddard who didn't get the ladlingVERGA::KLAESQuo vadimus?Wed Jan 12 1994 15:1828
Article: 81187
From: [email protected] (Marc Brett)
Newsgroups: alt.journalism,soc.history,sci.space,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Gotham Rag Touts Martians!
Date: 12 Jan 1994 10:59:00 GMT
Organization: Western Geophysical, Div. of Western Atlas Int'l, Houston, TX
 
    From the fortune files:
 
    "As a method of sending a missile to the higher, and even to the
highest parts of the earth's atmospheric envelope, Professor Goddard's
rocket is a practicable and therefore promising device.  It is when
one considers the multiple-charge rocket as a traveler to the moon
that one begins to doubt ... for after the rocket quits our air and
really starts on its journey, its flight would be neither accelerated
nor maintained by the explosion of the charges it then might have
left.  Professor Goddard, with his "chair" in Clark College and
countenancing of the Smithsonian Institution, does not know the
relation of action to re-action, and of the need to have something
better than a vacuum against which to react ... Of course he only
seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."

                -- New York Times Editorial, 1920
 
--
[email protected]
Western Geophysical

501.24So *nice* of them to let us know....STRATA::PHILLIPSMusic of the spheres.Thu Jan 13 1994 11:1317
    Re. -1
    
    [From the Time-Life recording "To The Moon"]
    
    In July 1969, shortly before the first moon landing, the New York
    Times, realizing the error of its 1920 editorial, printed the following
    retraction:
    
    "It is now definitely established that a rocket *can* function in a
      vacuum.
    
     The Times regrets the error."
    
    Oh, well - better late than never, I guess ..... ;)
    
    						--Eric--
    
501.25Tuesday on the Disney ChannelMTWAIN::KLAESHouston, Tranquility Base here...Mon Jul 11 1994 15:363
        The Disney Channel will air "A Moon Man from Massachusetts:
    The Robert Goddard Story" on Tuesday, July 12, at 9 p.m. EDT.