| Title: | Space Exploration |
| Notice: | Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6 |
| Moderator: | PRAGMA::GRIFFIN |
| Created: | Mon Feb 17 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Thu Jun 05 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 974 |
| Total number of notes: | 18843 |
It appears that the USSR launched something into a 51.6 deg inc
orbit, simular to MIR's orbit and normally not used except for
man related mission. Launch appears to have been on the 1st of
Oct 1987 at about 1709 utc. Nasa elements are only showing a B and
C object, no primary A object
I can only think of two other missions that use the same orbit
1) the space plane
kosmos 1373 1982-054a 204x158 km 88.11 min at 50.61 deg
kosmos 1445 1983-016a 224x177 km 88.56 min at 50.69 deg
kosmos 1517 1983-125a 221x180 km 88.51 min at 50.66 deg
kosmos 1614 1984-126a 223x176 km 88.48 min at 50.67 deg
2) obj 1985-53 a b c
was a mysterious obj, never really id, one though had it
as an ICBM test then somehow went orbital and all 3 (abc)
decayed in a few days
3) possible there was a test of a new reconance unit in a 51.6
deg orbit not sure but only once seveal years ago
has any heard or known any more about this launch
there is a 4th but hightly unlikly the Venus probes started
in such a parking orbit and part A was the planet mission
john
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| 355.1 | MONSTR::HUGHES | Walk like an Alien | Wed Oct 07 1987 12:15 | 8 | |
Jane's shows 1985-53 at an inclination of 64.4 and a description
of a possible launch test of a modified Proton. Any indication of
launch vehicle or site?
Cosmos 1669 entered a similar orbit and docked briefly with Salyut-7
in Jul 85.
gary
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| 355.2 | Sailplane / Tyuratam | IMGAWN::BIRO | Wed Oct 07 1987 13:09 | 11 | |
re:1
with inc of 51.6 deg it would most likly be Tyuratam USSR
an yes 86-53 did have a higher inc of 64.4
best fit is the sailplane, an that could explain where there
is no A obj, it has allready reentry as other typical flight
of the space plane did
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| 355.3 | MONSTR::HUGHES | Walk like an Alien | Thu Oct 08 1987 12:42 | 9 | |
The logs show launches to that inclination from both Tyuratum and
Plesetsk, hence the question.
Please, it isn't a sailplane. 'Space plane' or lifting body maybe,
but not a sailplane. Any indication of size of the other objects?
If so, if one of them is an upper stage it may be possible to work
backwards to determine the launch vehicle.
gary
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| 355.4 | Winged Twins? | PARITY::BIRO | Wed Feb 01 1989 13:19 | 18 | |
In the February 89 issue of ASTRA an interesting article
under WINGED_THINGS strengthen the case the the Soviet
Space plane was a test bed for their Shuttle.
The Novosti reporter points out that laboratory aircraft
and reusable spacecraft models were flown thousands of times.
Lastly, explains Chernyshov, to evaluate Buran's heat insulation
system, "four satellites representing aerospace vehicles were
put into orbit" prior to the spacecraft's maiden voyage. That
satement offically clears up the mysterious use of mini-spaceplanes
flown by the Soviets between 1982 and 1984.
The above was what was on page 46 of ASTRA, I am a little
more skeptical and say time will tell, but it does fit.
john
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