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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

258.0. "MIR's Second Crew" by IMNAUT::BIRO () Mon Feb 16 1987 08:00

    Alexander Laeikin has space sickness, but Radio Moscow says that he has
    recovered and he is felling better.  It is also rumored that the crew
    will not stay up the full 10 months, but most likly return in six
    months.  The problem is that visiting crews give way to metal stress
    and it would be better to retrun the crew around that time.
    
    An interesting obersavation has been made by the crew of MIR about
    the oceans, they have seen several (8 or 9 ) powerful concentrical
    waves going out in the mist of a completly calm sea. The Waves grew
    to be about 300 meter acrossed.
                                                                               
    One thing to watch for, will  they have to rotate the Soyuz T
    every six months, one of the reason for the visiting cosmonauts
    was  to change the old Souyz T with a new one, I would assume this
    is still be true with the TM-2, it seems that most of the
    improvements with the TM-2 is the auto docking and min fule useage.
    The other reason for the visiting cosmonauts was to cheer up
    the crew but this seems to be only short term, for example when
    the French Crew visited Saylut the old crew at up all the food they
    like before the French Crew came, however they enjoyed the crew
    stay but when they left they were very sad about not being able
    to go back themselfs.
    
    jb
    
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258.1MONSTR::HUGHESGary HughesMon Feb 16 1987 13:0311
    The original Soyuz used propellants that were somewhat corrosive
    which I think wass a factor in limiting its operational life. It
    is reasonable to assume the Soyuz-T and -TM use the same propellants
    so they probably face the same time limits.
    
    In the event of a countdown abort after the Soyuz tanks have been
    pressurised, they have to purge and check the tanks before recycling
    the launch. This is one of the gating factors in the turnaround
    time.
    
    gary
258.2Different tankageVMSDEV::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO1-1/D42Sat Feb 21 1987 16:566
    The Soyuz TM has changes in the fuel tanks.  They used to have a
    rubber-like diaphram (separating the oxy from the fuel?  or the
    contents from the ullage?).  This has been changed to something
    more stable.  This change may increase the life of the beast in space.
    
    Burns
258.3VINO::DZIEDZICSun Feb 22 1987 18:496
    The diaphragm is used to separate the oxidizer and fuel (different
    tanks, of course) from the gases used to pressurize the tanks.
    The gas was difusing through the liquid oxidizer/fuel and causing
    changes in the behaviour of the material.  Yes, it is intended to
    increase the amount of time the tank may be pressurized.
    
258.4PROGRESS 28 SENT TO MIR (AND MORE)EDEN::KLAESFleeing the Cylon Tyranny.Mon Mar 09 1987 11:2436
Newsgroups: sci.space
Path: decwrl!decvax!ucbvax!ll-vlsi.UUCP!glenn
Subject: Soviets send PROGRESS 28 to MIR space station
Posted: 6 Mar 87 16:59:01 GMT
Organization: The ARPA Internet
 
    The Soviet Union announced today (March 3) that a PROGRESS 28
cargo spacecraft had been launched to their MIR space station.  The
craft contains about 1.5 tons of fuel, air, water, supplies and
instruments.  PROGRESS 27 was just undocked last week after the
current SOYUZ TM-2 crew had unloaded it.  This means in the last year,
MIR has been visited by four PROGRESS vehicles, two space crews (with
the previous set leaving the station to visit the SALYUT 7 space
station, then returning), and one unmanned test vehicle (SOYUZ TM-1).
I suspect that this current crew will still be in orbit for the
October 4 date of the thirtieth anniversary of Sputnik 1.  It has been
announced that they will be visited by an Intercosmos crew containing
a Syrian cosmonaut on July 22.  Also, the West Germans have just
signed an agreement with the Soviets that includes preliminary
preparations for them flying a cosmonaut to MIR. 
 
    It certainly appears that the Soviets are not standing still in
space.  Meanwhile we have the Congressional Budget Office wanting to
kill both the Space Station and the replacement Space Shuttle Orbiter.
Even those that are supporting the NASA Station are talking about a
man-tended system now to keep the cost down (they will have to spend
2-3 billion dollars to develop a safety capsule otherwise, which of
course the Soviets do not have to worry about - they already have
one).  Just ask yourself this - which nation is showing itself to be a
truly space-faring civilization at the moment?  Hopefully, that will
change in the near future [Or, better yet, the space-faring nations
will learn to cooperate for the benefit of all - LK]. 
 
                  Glenn Chapman
                  MIT Lincoln Lab

258.5Astrophysic Mod coming upIMNAUT::BIROFri Mar 27 1987 09:4125
    PROGRESS 28 has been seperated from MIR , RM announced yesterday
    (thur) and that the ASTROPHYSIC MODULE will join them in a few days
    but I would assume to do this that the crew will have to close
    down MIR pack up TM2 and move TM2 to the back docking port
    then unpack TM2,  This is in case they could not redock.
    they then have MIR in a safe state and all the results of
    experiments with them  to bring back to earth.
    The reason to go to all this trouble is the fact that only the
    front and rear docking ports can be dock under computer control
    and only the front port is in reach of the robot arm
    The TM2 unit is now on the front docking port
    
    but one other possiblility , and EVA and maunal docking.  I
    have seen changes in the orbit of MIR almost every day, its 
    seems like the crew is learning to FLY MIR.  Even RM announce
    that the crew had pass on info to the next crew on how to
    contorl MIR, but this is unlikly
    
    IN the mean time with P28 being jetterson , a possible TM2 move,
    and and new large module on its way  MIR will be a very interesting
    obj to do a visulal sighting, it is present a good visual view on
    the east coast of the USA just before dawn.
    
    jb                                                    
    
258.69 monthsIMNAUT::BIROFri Mar 27 1987 10:142
    the crew will be up for nine months according to RM