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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

2236.0. "UTP-FDDI in noisy environment" by NETRIX::"[email protected]" (ton dekker) Mon Mar 10 1997 08:17

Hi,

We have a couple of customers who bought FDDI over UTP (controllers and
concentrators all our own stuff)
But since the environments can be called 'industrial' we see lots of link
errors.
Controllers, cables and cons have been replaced, without any luck.
Cabling system is cat.5. No long cables (variation from 10 - 40 meters).

What can be done to eliminate these link problems? Sell them fiber??

thanks, Ton.
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2236.1shieldingKERNEL::FREKESLike a thief in the nightMon Mar 10 1997 09:4111
    Ton
    
    The folks who installed the Cat 5 cable in an "industrial" environment,
    would have placed sheilding around the cable runs. If these cable runs
    are not sheilded then you can expect to see these kind of errors. Of
    course fibre would be a good solution, but why get the customer to
    spend any more money when the cable installation people have yet to
    finish their job?
    
    Steven F
    UK CSC
2236.2To shield or not to...UTRTSC::DEKKERWed Mar 12 1997 07:4514
    re. 1
    
    Customer has 4 Alpha's connected to a 900MX (using utp)
    One is located about 6 meters apart from the MX. Cable used is BN25H.
    The other systems are located about 40 meters away and use the building
    wiring (plus patches)
    All four systems suffer from the LEM errors, although the first one
    somewhat less.
    Building wiring is UTP not STP. 
    Should we have used shielded cabling? And if so, is there somewhere 
    an article which refers to such a requirement?
    
    Ton.
    
2236.3Where are the LEMsNPSS::KIRKWed Mar 12 1997 08:528
    Do the LEM errors show up on the adapter cards in the Alphas, or
    in the 900MX UTP ports, or both?
    
    Can you measure the traffic load?
    
    
    Dick Kirk
    Network Product Support
2236.4900MX for shureUTRTSC::DEKKERWed Mar 12 1997 09:2611
    LEM erros were seen on the 900MX ports.
    At that time we did not take the opportunity to look at the system
    site.
    
    Although measurements were not taken, I would guess that the load is
    not really high.
    
    Any preference for UTP or STP?
    
    Ton
    
2236.5NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportTue Mar 18 1997 10:045
    Please escalate this as an IPMT case against the DEFXU product.
    
    Bill
    
    
2236.6IPMT madeUTRTSC::DEKKERWed Mar 19 1997 05:334
    Ok will raise an IPMT case for this.
    
    Ton