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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

2053.0. "FDDI, ETHERNET, APPLETALK and Windows NT" by CSC32::DUNCAN () Thu May 23 1996 18:50

	I have a customer that has an Alpha 2000 with a FDDI and 2 Ethernet
adapters.  He is running Windows NT V3.51 with Service Pack 4 installed.  This
issue is in relation to Appletalk.  While configuring this system he forgot
to connect his FDDI to the hub.  When he tries to start Appletalk he gets an
error "A device attached to the system is not functioning."  The interesting
thing is that Appletalk won't start on the ethernet when this happens.  Is this
the way it should work?  According to the customer his Sun system will fail on
the FDDI but will still allow Appletalk to start on the ethernet.  Any
recommendation or explanations would be appreciated.

Bill Duncan
Windows NT Support

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2053.1NETCAD::STEFANIThu May 23 1996 21:1211
    The recommendation is to NOT install a driver for a device that you're
    not planning to use.  The current FDDI driver doesn't return any
    particular status if the cable is disconnected, so NT probably thinks
    there's something wrong and is affecting the bound protocol stacks.
    
    If your customer is going to leave the FDDI unused, they should remove
    the driver, or alternatively, use the Bindings option under Control
    Panel/Network Settings to turn off all of the bindings to the FDDI
    card.
    
    - Larry
2053.2future plans?CSC32::DUNCANFri May 24 1996 11:0814
The customer planned on using the FDDI but through an over sight hadn't
connected it to the hub and was initially suspecting a problem with the FDDI.
After he realized that it was only a disconnected cable he felt that NT should
have went on and loaded Appletalk on the ethernet controllers as Sun supposedly 
does.

Do you plan in the future to return any status to NT so that it might better
handle and over site like this by our customers or are there no plans for this.

Thanks for the information.

Bill Duncan
Windows NT Support

2053.3NETCAD::STEFANIFri May 24 1996 12:3114
>>Do you plan in the future to return any status to NT so that it might better
>>handle and over site like this by our customers or are there no plans for this.
    
    The Microsoft driver development documentation is severely lacking, but
    we found an NDIS_STATUS error code called "NO_CABLE".  The new driver
    I'll be releasing shortly will return this error code if the link is
    unavailable.  Again, it's not a given that NT won't still "mess up",
    but at least architecturally, returning this error code makes sense.
    
    I still stand by my original recommendation that you either don't
    install network drivers for cards that aren't being used, or you
    install the drivers, but turn off the bindings.
    
    - Larry
2053.4ThanksCSC32::DUNCANFri May 24 1996 17:185
	Thank you so much for the information.

	Bill