| Title: | FDDI - The Next Generation |
| Moderator: | NETCAD::STEFANI |
| Created: | Thu Apr 27 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Thu Jun 05 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
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But the basic question, how does the OBR port work?
Thanks
Mark.
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Note 3288.0 OBR (relay) for alarming 1 reply
MEO78A::BARNHOORN "Barney to his friends" 19 lines 15-FEB-1996 22:14
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The Australian Telco here are going to offer FDDI services and are
looking at using DECconcentrator 900MX.
They have questions on alarm notification, they what a physical alarm
to go off in the exchange/central office where the equipment will be
located. They have asked about using the OBR port for device alarming.
The OBR port of the concentrator will not go to a OBR but an alarming
unit. If the concentrator fails/losses power is what happens on the
OBR port? What pins change state?
Do we need to provide any signals at first on the OBR port?
thanks for any information
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Note 3288.1* OBR (relay) for alarming 1 of 1
NETCAD::ROLKE "Happy Dog is on WEMP" 15 lines 21-FEB-1996 15:49
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> The OBR port of the concentrator will not go to a OBR but an alarming
> unit. If the concentrator fails/losses power is what happens on the
> OBR port? What pins change state?
>
> Do we need to provide any signals at first on the OBR port?
You can read about the OBR connector wiring in UPSAR::FDDI Note 1940.*.
KP7 will add...
I would not recommend using the OBR port for anything but an OBR device.
Unless, of course, you can answer with authority: "How is the OBR port
supposed to work?" and "Does the OBR for this concentrator really do that?".
Regards,
Chuck
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| 1967.1 | bypass is Inserted when station is Connected | NETCAD::ROLKE | Happy Dog is on WEMP | Mon Feb 26 1996 14:56 | 47 |
> But the basic question, how does the OBR port work? To see what the OBR does to a network see Raj Jain's "Fddi Handbook", 5.8 Optical Bypasses. To see what is the pinout of the OBR port see note 1940.*. The "insert" and "deinsert" actions are initiated by FDDI Station Management (SMT) funtion Entity Coordination Management (ECM). SM_PM_BYPASS.request (Control_Action) This primitive is generated by SMT and asserted to PMD to indicate that SMT wants to join or leave the FDDI network. The Control_Action parameter shall include the following: Insert, Deinsert. When Generated: SMT shall generate this primitive whenever it wants to activate or deactivate the optical switch(es). Effect Upon Receipt: Upon receipt of this primitive with a Control_Action of Insert, PMD activates the optical switch such that the MIC inbound optical signal from the cable plant is directed to the optical receiver. The output of the optical transmitter shall be directed to the MIC output to the cable plant. Upon receipt of this primitive with a Control_Action of Deinsert, PMD deactivates the optical swithc such that the MIC inbound optical signal from the cable plant is directed through the switch to the MIC output to the cable plant. The output of the optical transmitter shall be directed through the optical switch to the input of the optical receiver. This state is called the bypass mode. Throughout this notes conference you will see the use of OBRs discouraged. See note 320.*. Consequently, the actual OBR function itself is not tested by day-to-day use. I know of several implementations where the OBR will work only if the OBR is present when the device is powered on. That said, you could always just try monitoring a real OBR and see if the signal (Pins 1,2 high; Pins 3,4 low) gives you the the indication that the customer wants. Regards, Chuck | |||||
| 1967.2 | OBR PORT info | MEO78A::BARNHOORN | Barney to his friends | Thu Feb 29 1996 19:59 | 20 |
Thanks for the information in .1, but the real question is how does the
OBR PORT on the DECconcentrator work?
What pins are active, or what makes them active?
The other OBR notes describe the pins, but not the status, or
functions.
What causes the OBR to operate, loss of a mod PMD or only total loss?
The PPT (Carrier) wants to use the OBR for alarming, and they would
like to monitor pins X and Y and loss of signal means the box is dead
etc.
thanks
Mark.
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| 1967.3 | Pins to monitor.... | NETCAD::BATTERSBY | Fri Mar 01 1996 09:15 | 14 | |
Mark, it looks to me like all your carrier has to do is
monitor either pins 1 or 2 relative to either pins 3 or 4.
Pins 1 & 2 are a positive dc voltage (+5v), and pins 3 & 4
are a negative dc voltage (gnd). Whenever the module powers off
pins 1 & 2 will not be positive relative to pins 3 & 4.
The pins 1 & 2 are used to energize the 2 optical switches in
an optical bypass relay (for both the primary and secondary FDDI
rings. Pins 3 & 4 are the gnd returns for pins 1 & 2 respectively.
So take your pick, monitor the pin 1 & 3 pair or monitor the
pin 2 & 4 pair. For the purpose your carrier is accomplishing the
other pins can be ignored.
Bob
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| 1967.4 | thanks | MEO78A::BARNHOORN | Barney to his friends | Sun Mar 03 1996 18:14 | 6 |
Hi Bob,
Thanks
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