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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1867.0. "Urgent for whitepaper of FFDT" by BEJVC::TYRONELIN () Thu Nov 16 1995 01:44

    Hi,
    
    Urgently need you help.
    Where can I find whitepaper about our FDDI NICs and Full Duplex FDDI
    Tehcnology? I don't know how to explain it.
    
    Is it right for all our FDDI NICs support Full Duplex FDDI?
    
    Thanks in Advance,
    
    Tyrone
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1867.1NETCAD::STEFANIMachines to humanizeThu Nov 16 1995 09:2215
    I don't know of a whitepaper on FDX, but there's some information about
    our FDDI adapters in the APG WWW page:
    
    	http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/adapters/home.html
    
    Digital also licenses FDX to a number of 3rd party companies, so you
    can probably talk to the corporate licensing office to get the "public"
    information on FDX.                           
    
    Most (if not all) of the FDDI adapters support FDX, however, there are
    typically SW switches that need to be thrown to enable it.  If you have
    a particular adapter/OS configuration in mind, please post it and we
    might be able to address it.
    
    /l
1867.2Thanks and need helpBEJVC::TYRONELINThu Nov 16 1995 20:4316
    Hi,
    
    Thank you for quickly answer.
    I just want to know how our FDDI NICs physically connect to
    GIGAswitch/FDDI. The customer don't believe we can use SAS FDDI NICs to
    implement Full Duplex FDDI. They think it must be DAS.
    
    Also I can't access WWW,because in PRC we have no TCP/IP service.
    But we can only copy from our VMS networks.
    Can you help me post some FDDI info or tell me where I can get them
    from our VMS networks?
    
    Thanks
    
    Tyrone
    
1867.3NETCAD::STEFANIMachines to humanizeThu Nov 16 1995 23:198
    >>I just want to know how our FDDI NICs physically connect to
    >>GIGAswitch/FDDI. The customer don't believe we can use SAS FDDI NICs to
    >>implement Full Duplex FDDI. They think it must be DAS.
    
    That's incorrect.  You can connect both SAS and DAS adapters directly
    to the GIGAswitch and use FDX.
    
    /l
1867.4thanksBEJVC::TYRONELINSun Nov 19 1995 21:529
    Hi,
    
    Yes, I see it in FDDI NICs brochure. But I can't explain it,so I need 
    the whitepaper.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Tyrone
    
1867.5FYI GIGAswitch/FDDI FDX enabled by defaultSCHOOL::RLEBLANCMon Nov 20 1995 09:186
    
    	Also GIGAswitch/FDDI has Full Duplex enabled by default.
    
    							Cheers,
    							  Rene'
    
1867.6FDDI EISA NICs white paper on NPB web page.....NETCAD::BATTERSBYMon Nov 20 1995 09:296
    There's a white paper of possible relevant interest at our NPB web page.
    From our internal side of the firewall it's at;
    http:npbww2.hpn.lkg.dec.com/npb/html/white-papers.html
    It's available in postscript form and is 16 pages long.
    
    Bob
1867.7A Layman's DescriptionJUMP4::JOYPerception is realityTue Nov 21 1995 13:1222
    This is a brief explanation (in layman's terms) of how FFDX works. The
    customer may be confused because he may think you need to cables to
    support something in full duplex mode. Each FDDI cable, whether it is
    SAS or DAS, has 2 fibres in it...one for transmit and one for receive.
    The ANSI FDDI MAC standard requires all MACs to be able to operate in
    full duplex mode (e.g. in a normal ring, a station could be still be
    receiving a long packet while it is repeating or transmitting it back out 
    on to the ring). This happens whether the station is connected via a
    DAS connection to the dual-ring (or GIGAswitch) or via a SAS connection to 
    a concentrator (or GIGAswitch). FFDX capitalizes on this built-in
    capability by sending special messages during the hand-shaking when a
    station is joining a ring to indicated whether or not it understands
    FFDX and that it is in a point-to-point configuration. If everything is
    set up to use FFDX, then the stations not bother with a token and use
    full duplex, otherwise they will happily fall in to normal token-passing 
    configuration.
    
    I hope this helps. The whitepaper will give more details.
    
    Regards,
    Debbie