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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1784.0. "rarp fddi - ethernet" by NETRIX::"[email protected]" () Thu Aug 17 1995 17:26

Hi there
I have a customer hwho has moved there rarp server onto fddi
it is an ultrix system but the same is for dec-unix. the rarpd
uses the packet filter. I have changed the daemon to filter for
fddi frames but find that my response on the ethernet side looks
like an 802.3 frame - i was hoping for ethernet.
i am going through a decswitch 900-ef ( i think ). The protocol
on ethernet rarp request is like
ddeessttiinnssoouurrccee8035and then rarp stuff 
so on fddi in packet filter it becomes
00000050ddeessttiinnssoouurrcceeAAAA030000008035and then the rarp stuff
      fC                             oui = 00-00-00

I send out my packet as
00000050ddeessttiinnssoouurrcceeAAAA030000008035 rarp response
and on ethernet I get
ddeessttiinnssoouurrccee0021000...000 and then middle of rarp stuff
I don't have a trace here and can't be sure how many zeros
but it looks to me like the packet on ethernet
is 802.3 with 0s fo snap-sap control oui type 
My nieve assumption was to just send the same format out as came in
so I have a couple of questions
will our fddi bridges put out ethernet ( as opposed to 802.3 )
packets  - I assume so ?
should I send out using "bridge tunnel" oui ?

because after this one is solved he wants his appletalk to work too?

A supplementary question
I though that a 00-00-00 oui in a snap-sap frame (aa-aa) should
become ethernet frames on the exit lan ??
thanks for the impending laughter
chow

Tom King MCS Sydney.

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1784.1this is what I saw and sent !!GIDDAY::KING..and then there were two..Fri Aug 18 1995 05:1525
FDDI
Received
00 00 00 50 ff ff ff ff ff ff aa 00 04 00 87 ee aa aa 03 00 00 00 80 35 \
00 01 08 00 06 04 00 03 aa 00 04 00 87 ee 00 00 00 00 aa 00 04 00 87 ee \
00 ...
I sent 
00 00 00 50 aa 00 04 00 87 ee 08 00 2b b0 9d 07 aa aa 03 00 00 00 80 35 \
00 01 08 00 06 04 00 04 08 00 2b b0 9d 07 10 99 20 42 aa 00 04 00 87 ee \
10 99 20 4b 00 ...



I looked at the source to if_ethersubr.c on osf
it does the test
if (LLC_IS_ENCAP_ETHER(ll))
     type = ntohs(l->llc_snap.ether_type);
so I checked in my program and it should work.
e.g. in dbx
(dbx) print l->llc_un.type_snap.ether_type 
0x3580

bummer!!
I am using a decbridge 900 MX with 
sw v1.5.0 and hw v0/2 and ro v0.2
digital unix 3.2 with a defta card