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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1704.0. "NFS directory listings take forever, then ok???" by DELBOY::THORNTON () Mon Jun 05 1995 13:25

    Customer is using NFS on a SUN server attached to FDDI ring in a 900
    Hub
    
    The clients are using NFS and are attached on ethernet.
    
    The systems are linked via DEC900EF
    
    
    The users can connect to the NFS mounted disks, and then move around
    using 
    cd /this/that/theother without problem.
    
    When they try to list files (using ls command) there is a very long
    pause (I believe
    up to 1-2 minutes - but i have not timed this myself yet) then the
    information 
    comes up okay.
    
    Next time they do the ls command the information comes up immediately.
    
    This precedure can be repeated on a second /third client etc. The first
    time there is
    always a delay, but if repeated immediately it is quick to respond.
    
    If the users are then idle for some time, the problem/symptoms recur.
    
    IT IS LIKE something is cached and then 'ages out' ...... can anyone
    explain
    what is happening and why (also how to fix it ! ;-) please?????)
    
    
    regards&thanx
    dave
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1704.1NPSS::MDLYONSMichael D. Lyons DTN 226-6943Tue Jun 06 1995 14:342
    ...since you're not having much luck here, you might try the SMURF::NFS
    notes conference...
1704.2and the answer is....DELBOY::THORNTONWed Jun 07 1995 07:4632
    Thanks Micheal, 
    
    good news is however last night i had some luck on-site!!!
    
    I was studying the SUN docs and came across a reference to Solaris 1
    not supporting MTU negotiation.....
    
    I decided to lower the MTU on FDDI (SUN Solaris V2 defaults to 4352
    octets for MTU). I changed the fddi servers from 4352 to the ethernet
    1500 so that there was no need to IP fragment on our 900EF switch.
    
    This cured the symptoms. The Solaris 1 clients on ethernet now access
    the fddi Sun Solaris 2 NFS servers at consistently high speed.
    
    My expanation is that the NFS (which uses UDP - unreliable protocol)
    application is losing data perhaps due to buffering or bursty network
    traffic (?) and this only shows up when the larger fddi frames are
    fragmented by our switch. When there is no fragmentation, the
    'overload' does not seem to occur and transactions become reliable as
    they were originally on the ethernet.
    
    changing the mtu down (which would lessen the efficiancy of fddi
    transfers)  is not a problem as all transactions are from
    ethernet end-systems to the fddi server
     
    
    hope this helps someone else someday!
    
    regards
    davet
    :-)