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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1692.0. "NET805 using DEFPA and Lanmanager 2.2c" by MUNICH::RADLER () Fri May 19 1995 14:45

Hi folks,

a customer tried to get a DEFPA (UTP) adapter to work in a CELEBRIS 590
with Lanmanager 2.2c Client. He installed the software from the NT 3.5
Server CD.

During the installation he used the DEFPA driver Version 2.09.000 from
the newest kit on KALI::.

DOS Versions: 6.2, 6.22 German

The installation completes and after rebooting the workstation software
is startet, NETBEUI is bound successfully on the adapter.
He established a point to point link with an ALPHASERVER 2100 with the
same DEFPA FDDI adapter running Windows NT 3.5.

After establishing a connection using NET USE ... all operations except
the dir command results in an

NET805: Network device no longer exists ... drive H:
(c)cancel, (r)retry, (f)failure

after pressing r for retry, message "extended error 55" occur and the
command prompt reappear.

I tried the same on a CELEBRIS 590 and a DECpc XL 566 in the service 
Center and got the same result.

Does anybody know hot to work arround this problem or how to solve it.
I tried several settings in the protocol.ini but always the same.

Windows for Worksgroups would work but with only a transmission rate
of 500 to 800 KB/s but can't be used due to problems with his 
application software.

Any suggestion welcome and appreciated.

Regards
Dieter
Windows NT Support Munich

PS: We sold about 40 PCI Adapters and CELEBRIS Computers to that customer
    so it would be intended to get the thing to work.
    

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1692.1NETCAD::STEFANIWelcome to the Revolution!Fri May 19 1995 15:2312
    We have a known problem with the DEFPA NDIS 2.01 drivers (both DOS and
    OS/2) in which the IRQ *must* be on the secondary PIC.  That is, you
    should make sure the IRQ is set to 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, or 15.  If the
    IRQ is set on the primary PIC (eg. IRQ 5), the driver won't work
    properly.
    
    This problem is getting fixed, but for now, verify that the IRQ is on
    the secondary PIC.  Also, Microsoft fixed some PCI-related problems in
    EMM386, so if you're using EMM386.EXE, make sure it's at v4.49 or
    greater.
             
       -Larry
1692.2IRQ and EMM checkedMUNICH::RADLERMon May 22 1995 05:1716
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	I used IRQ 9 on the Celebris and I tested IRQ 9 and 15 on my XL 566.

	The EMM386 shipped with the lanmanager driver kit has never worked on my computers.
	I always used the EMM386 from DOS 6.22 or no extended memory manager. But it doesn't
	matter wheter or not EMM is used.

	Which PCI-related problems do you mean? Where are the fixes for this problems?

	I think my problem is only driver or MS-DOS related. I use the same adapter in the same
	computer with Windows NT and I have a very good performance.

	Are there some suggestions I can try? Perhaps do some older driver work?

	Regards
	Dieter
1692.3NETCAD::STEFANIWelcome to the Revolution!Mon May 22 1995 13:4828
    >>The EMM386 shipped with the lanmanager driver kit has never worked on
    >>my computers. I always used the EMM386 from DOS 6.22 or no extended
    >>memory manager. But it doesn't matter wheter or not EMM is used.
    >>
    >>Which PCI-related problems do you mean? Where are the fixes for this
    >>problems?

    I don't know what Microsoft fixed, but basically, if you're going to
    use EMM386.EXE on a PCI system, make sure it's at v4.49 or later.
    
    >>I think my problem is only driver or MS-DOS related. I use the same
    >>adapter in the same computer with Windows NT and I have a very good
    >>performance.
    
    >>Are there some suggestions I can try? Perhaps do some older driver work?
    
    There is no other driver for NDIS 2.01 on DEFPA.  However, if it's
    possible to use the DOS ODI client driver (DEFPA.COM), that's another
    option.  However, since the DOS ODI client driver supports FDDI
    natively, I have some doubts that the LAN Manager protocol stacks will
    support it properly.
    
    We'll look into getting the DEFPA.DOS driver running under your version
    of LAN manager.  I don't know why it wouldn't work since the driver is
    very close to the DEFEA.DOS driver and we don't have a similar problem
    report issued against that driver.
    
    /l
1692.4No emm v4.49 availableMUNICH::RADLERTue May 23 1995 11:178
	I checked my EMM Version, it is v4.48.

	But it is already DOS 6.22, where can I get a newer EMM386? I checked also Microsoft
	Driver Library on the Technet CD, but nothing.

	Could you provide this EMM386 version?

	/Dieter
1692.5NETCAD::STEFANIWelcome to the Revolution!Tue May 23 1995 12:1713
    EMM386 is a Microsoft piece of SW.  We simply can't send it to a
    customer.  It's possible that the MS-DOS 6.22 releases are different
    from the US and Europe, but I hadn't heard before that this was the
    case.  You could try other Microsoft channels to get the version,
    however, after speaking with another engineer about this, they believe
    that the "bad" versions of EMM386 would cause the driver to hang upon
    loading.  This behavior hasn't been seen, correct?
    
    It's quite possible that the client configuration is fine and that this
    is a server configuration problem.  What additional steps has the
    customer done to isolate the problem?
    
    /l
1692.6more informationMUNICH::RADLERWed May 24 1995 14:0524
	You are right, loading of the driver was only prevented by the EMM Version
	provided on the DEFPA driver disk.

	With the v4.48 of the german MS-DOS 6.22 there is no problem.
	
	What have we done for troubleshooting?

	- Using IRQ 9 and 15 on the XL 566 and Celebris

	- Changing latency between 40h and 88h
	
	- Using only minimal configured config.sys and autoexec.bat. That means
    	  no use of drivers or tools except the neccessary for using the DEFPA

	- Using Pathworks 5.1.008 Client Software (using NDIS)

	- we tried only TCP/IP, that worked better (ftp->get: 120KB/s)

	- we tried Pathworks with NEBEUI only -> same problem or low responce 5KB/s

	....

	regards
	/Dieter