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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1583.0. "FDDI concentrator requirements" by SEAWLF::COLE (Govt Programs Office/Landover, Md) Tue Feb 14 1995 13:06

	I have a government requirement for several hundred
	FDDI concentrators as follows:

	"The Contractor shall provide a FDDI dual attachment
	concentrator with a minimum eight master station ports
	that connect to a dual ring or to another concentrator via
	two dual homed connections.  The Contractor shall provide
	AB ports with single mode, multimode, and a copper based
	implementation of FDDI (ie, CDDI).  The Contractor shall
	provide 2 Medium Access Control (MAC) BOOTP support, hot
	swappable line cards, SNMP agent, TELNET support; null,
	single and cual attachment; FLASH firmware, compliance with
	FDDI SMT Rev 7.3., Concentrator configuration via software,
	non-volitle memory for configuration, MIB II, and private
	extension support; per port traffic capability."

	
	From what I can gather so far, the DECconcentrator 500 and
	900MX don't meet the requirements - they seem to be written
	for a Cisco WS-C1400 or something else (3COM, Synoptics, Chipcom,
	Cabletron??)  Is there any good source of competitive information
	on FDDI concentrators available ?

	Can anyone suggest other solutions ?


	thanks,

	larry cole
	tech support, US Federal Sales Region
	etonic::cole	or	[email protected]

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1583.1NETCAD::B_CRONINWed Feb 15 1995 11:236
    
    The only thing we can offer is to talk to them about whether they
    will be willing to use single MAC concentrators. We only sell 
    single MAC concentrators, so if that's not negotaible, the rest 
    is moot. I won't try to minimize the amount of software required to 
    add items such as telnet, but that's at least possible to add!
1583.2Confused..PFSVAX::MCELWEEOpponent of OppressionFri Feb 17 1995 23:023
    	What's the advantage of more than one MAC please?
    
    Phil
1583.3NETCAD::B_CRONINMon Feb 20 1995 17:0319
    An FDDI network is built with two rings, referred to as the primary and
    secondary rings. Each ring operates at a data rate of 100 Mbps. Some
    people wanted to be able to put a total of 200 Mbps onto the rings. 
    (Of course, when the rings wrapped, they were back to 100 Mbps, but
    some people could accept that). 
    
    Since in the normal condition the rings were independent of 
    each other, traffic had to be bridged or routed between the
    two rings. When they wrapped, the traffic would now all be on the 
    same ring - very confusing.
    
    We chose to build products that have only 1 MAC, since that was
    cheaper, simpler, and was also the predominant manner in which FDDI
    is used. 
    
    So, the perceived advantage is that you get 200 Mbps out of your 
    ring. In fact, its not that easy. 
    
    
1583.4I understand the rationele, but??PFSVAX::MCELWEEOpponent of OppressionMon Feb 27 1995 01:227
    Re: .3- 
    	OK, I see. Digital does not condone using the latent 100Mbps?
    
    	Providing Full Duplex FDDI is obviously one advantage, but how do
    we address the 100 vs. 200 Mbps claims?
    
    Phil
1583.5NETCAD::STEFANIWelcome to the Revolution!Mon Feb 27 1995 11:2511
    >>	Providing Full Duplex FDDI is obviously one advantage, but how do
    >>we address the 100 vs. 200 Mbps claims?
    
    1. How many dual MAC FDDI concentrators are out there?
    2. How many of these are integrated in a hub that users own?
    3. How many dual MAC FDDI bridges, routers, or adapters are out there?
    
    I think the market has pretty much dictated that using both the primary
    and secondary rings will be limited to a few niche vendors. 
    
    /l