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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1558.0. "Simple questions...." by SCCAT::MILLER () Tue Jan 24 1995 12:56

    A couple of simple questions whose answers have eluded me....
    
    What's the max length UTP cable a DECconcentrator 900MX TP-PMD
    can drive?
    
    Should the DECconcentrator 900MX pass it's loop test if a loopback
    connector is put on the end of this cable?
    
    Thanks!
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1558.1NETCAD::STEFANIWelcome to the Revolution!Tue Jan 24 1995 15:4913
    >>What's the max length UTP cable a DECconcentrator 900MX TP-PMD
    >>can drive?
    
    Uh, I'll let Bill answer this one.
    
    >>Should the DECconcentrator 900MX pass it's loop test if a loopback
    >>connector is put on the end of this cable?
    
    No.  Whether it's an A, B, or M port on the concentrator, if you attach
    a loopback connector on it, the LED should indicate an illegal topology
    error because A-A, B-B, and M-M connections are rejected.
    
    /l
1558.2100m is what we advertiseNETCAD::MELARAGNITue Jan 24 1995 20:2020
    It is generally accepted that the max cable length for UTP is 100m. I
    purposefully made this statement ambiguous because the TP-PMD spec does
    not *strictly* limit the lenght to 100m. It specifies that a max cable
    length is determined by its electrical characteristics, as defined by
    the Structured Wiring spec (EIA/TIA-568B) and the TP-PMD spec.
    
    But don't let me confuse you too much; we sell TP-PMD as a 100m
    solution only. This cable length falls very nicely into the structured
    wiring heirarchy. Besides, most cable manufacturers really only
    guarantee their cable will meet '568 up to 100m.
    
    Finally, if you have a max length UTP cable and put a loopback on it
    you will have effectively doubled the length of the cable, yes? 2 x max
    = too much. It won't work. 
    
    Also only S-S connections will complete, all other homogeneous connections 
    will be bounced (as Larry said...).
    
    bill
    
1558.3Consistent with results.....SCCAT::MILLERWed Jan 25 1995 11:208
    Thanks.  By hanging a loop on the end, I was looking for a simple way
    of checking basic connectivity in the wiring.  The wiring vendor
    cert'ed the station wiring from the 110 frame to the station, but
    didn't test from the DECconc 900MX cable on out.  The interesting thing
    is that, for closer stations, the loop test did pass (blinking yellow
    LED).  As I got further away, consistant with the 100m "max", the test
    didn't.  The final test is, of course, hooking up a system (which
    wasn't available at the time).