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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1556.0. "Optical Bypass control from DECHUB 900 ???" by BOBSEG::SEGREST (Mid-Atlantic TOEM Field Application Engineer) Sat Jan 21 1995 10:28

    Is there a optical bypass control line output from the DEChub 900 FDDI
    concentrator ???  I have a client that desperately needs a low cost SAS
    to DAS interface and we are looking at the the DEChub for want of a
    cheaper solution....

    Bob Segrest
    E&RT FAE
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1556.1NETCAD::MELARAGNISun Jan 22 1995 16:307
    Yes, the DEF6x family of Hub concs contain OBR (optical bypass relay)
    outputs. This is the 6 pin MJ connector on the front bezel of the unit.
    
    I am unclear what you think the relationship between SAS, DAS, and OBR
    is. I'm curious.
    
    bill
1556.2Great !!!BOBSEG::SEGRESTMid-Atlantic TOEM Field Application EngineerSun Jan 22 1995 23:3421
    Great !!!   I am glad to hear the OBR is there...

    The client I am working with has a requirement to connect his system
    (an Alpha AXPvme single board computer) to an existing dual FDDI ring.

    Our FDDI PCI mezzanine card is a single attached station (SAS)
    interface.  It is a low cost high performance device, but we have to
    connect it to the existing dual ring (DAS).

    As I understand it, we would normally use a FDDI concentrator to connect
    a SAS interface to the DAS ring.  In this case what I need is a device
    that will allow me to connect one SAS FDDI interface to the FDDI ring.

    The DEChub FDDI module with a DEChub One and three PMDs (one to the SAS
    interface and two to the DAS ring) list for about $5800 and is twice
    the concentrator that I need.  

    If I am missing something or you know where I can get a $2000 solution,
    speak up please....

    Bob Segrest
1556.3NETCAD::STEFANIWelcome to the Revolution!Mon Jan 23 1995 06:0119
    >>As I understand it, we would normally use a FDDI concentrator to connect
    >>a SAS interface to the DAS ring.  In this case what I need is a device
    >>that will allow me to connect one SAS FDDI interface to the FDDI ring.

    Right, and that device is generally an FDDI concentrator or switch.
    
    >>The DEChub FDDI module with a DEChub One and three PMDs (one to the SAS
    >>interface and two to the DAS ring) list for about $5800 and is twice
    >>the concentrator that I need.  

    You could use the DEFPZ UTP variant and a UTP PMD for the concentrator
    if that helps.  Otherwise, I would shop around for the cheapest FDDI
    concentrator I could find.  I'm sure someone makes some lower cost,
    lower port density or unmanageable FDDI concentrators that would work.
    
    Like Bill, I'm at a loss to know what OBR has to do with any of the
    above.
    
       - Larry
1556.4OBR controls the relay...BOBSEG::SEGRESTMid-Atlantic TOEM Field Application EngineerMon Jan 23 1995 09:0211
    Sorry, I missed your question...  something about the forest and
    trees..
    
    The OBR signal is required to controll an external optical bypass relay
    where the concentrator connects to the dual attached ring.  The intent
    is to minimize the impact that a power (or other) failure on one node 
    might have on the rest of the ring.  At least this is the explanation
    that the client offered with his requirement.
    
    Bob Segrest
    E&RT FAE
1556.5Pointers anyone ???BOBSEG::SEGRESTMid-Atlantic TOEM Field Application EngineerMon Jan 23 1995 09:079
    By the way,

    I would be very very grateful to anyone who could point me to a low
    cost concentrator solution...  If anyone knows of one reply here, send
    me mail or call me at 703-937-5939.  It could be the key to a $50k
    short term sale and as much as $3.75M over the next few years.

    Bob Segrest
    E&RT FAE
1556.6perhaps the 16 port hub conc?NETCAD::MELARAGNIMon Jan 23 1995 11:5110
Contact Karl Pieper (DELNI::PIEPER). He is the product manager for a
high-density Hub conc. He has info on the cost and availability of the device.
Note that this unit is mostly UTP (12 ports) and supports 2 modPMDs in the front
and 2 in the high-end docking station. The cost-per-port should be very
competitive (if not down right cheap!) compared to our competitors' stuff.

bill

p.s. thanx for clearing up the OBR thing. your need for the OBR is perfectly
consistent with its intended function.