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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:	FDDI - The Next Generation

Moderator:	NETCAD::STEFANI

Created:	Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:	Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2259
Total number of notes:	8590

1490.0. "FDDI boot information" by GESSUB::BAGNASCO (PAOLO) Tue Nov 08 1994 07:52

    Hi, 
    
    I read the attached article on TIMA, saying that FDDI controller
    DEFTA is not bootable;
    
    a customer wants to know when this will be possible.
    
    Can someone give us this information? 
    Thanks in advance,
    Paolo
    OSS group - Milan
    
{Draft} DEFTA TURBOchannel FDDI option is not bootable


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Copyright (c) Digital Equipment Corporation 1994. All rights reserved

SOURCE: Digital Equipment Corporation

DEFTA, OVMS, OSF, DEC3000, VAXstation 4000, model 90


Information supplied by workstation engineering:

        The DEFTA TURBOchannel FDDI controller is not supported as a boot
device on the VAX4000 and DEC3000 family of workstations.
OVMS and OSF do not have drivers for the option that are VMB loadable, the
drivers are only loaded / useable at the operating system level.

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T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1490.1		NETRIX::thomas	The Code Warrior	`Tue Nov 08 1994 08:51`	2
	At least for OSF/1, bullshit. I load most of my Alphas via DEFTAs and it works fine.
1490.2	AXP VMS ?	GESSUB::BAGNASCO	PAOLO	`Tue Nov 08 1994 12:26`	6
	Sorry, I forgot to specify OpensVMS AXP (6.1)... Thanks, paolo
1490.3	Ask product management	49877::JRS	John SHADE - 'Attila the Nun'	`Wed Nov 09 1994 04:40`	4
	Dennis (SCHOOL::) Majikas is the product manager. Ask him for the definitive answer - and then let us know! -John
1490.4		STAR::STOCKDALE		`Wed Nov 09 1994 14:20`	7
	DEFTA can be used as a boot device for AXP only, Flamingo, Sandpiper, Pelican in Alpha VMS V6.1 and later. Note that support is not planned for VAX. Note that some of the faster DSR systems (Sandpiper+, Flamingo+) may be broken in this regard - there is an outstanding QAR on it. This will be fixed for V6.2. - Dick
1490.5	Thanks	GESSUB::BAGNASCO	PAOLO	`Tue Nov 15 1994 02:35`	4
	Thanks a lot to you all, if I'll have some other infos, I'll let you know. Ciao paolo
1490.6	FDDI BOOT	CSC32::J_SHUMWAY		`Tue Dec 20 1994 11:06`	3
	Can a Sable 2100 boot over FDDI? Can/will a 7000 or 10000 ever boot via FDDI? Is this controller dependent, console, hardware platform, operating system dependent?
1490.7		STAR::STOCKDALE		`Tue Dec 20 1994 14:03`	15
	7000/10000 - Yes, via DEMFA. 3000 - Yes, via DEFTA, DEFZA. Mikasa - Yes, via DEFEA in V6.2. All other systems, no. To boot, first console MOP support is needed, then a VMS bootdriver. There is no console support for any systems other than the ones listed above. Since the bootdriver code now exists for all FDDI adapters, the only remaining piece is console support (and debug of the bootdriver as necessary). - Dick VMS LAN drivers
1490.8	3000-600 FDDI boot needed	CSOA1::CYPHER		`Tue Jan 17 1995 10:07`	6
	I also have DEFTA-AA Turbo Channel boot problems with a 3000-600. I believe the original STARS article said VMB boot code support was missing. My customer is very disappointed in the product. We need this problem fixed. Dennis
1490.9		STAR::STOCKDALE		`Tue Jan 24 1995 17:21`	14
	>> I also have DEFTA-AA Turbo Channel boot problems with a 3000-600. I >> believe the original STARS article said VMB boot code support was >> missing. There is a bug in the bus support code which thinks a Sandpiper+ is a Flamingo and then doesn't do the conversion of the slot number provided by the console which numbers the slots differently for Sandpiper than for Pelican and Flamingo. So the VMS boot driver for the DEFTA cannot find the DEFTA and the boot fails. Contact the VMS support group to retrofit the fix back to V6.1 if you need it. Or wait till V6.2 where it is fixed. - Dick
1490.10	APB.EXE from O'VMS V6.2 fixed	CSOA1::CYPHER		`Wed Feb 08 1995 09:28`	4
	Thanks for the info. I copied down APB.EXE from V6.2 and applied it to my 2100 Servers. No problem booting in the Alpha 3000-600 afterward. Dennis