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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1483.0. "What about this configuration ?" by BIS5::RUTTENS () Tue Oct 25 1994 05:59

I have three DC900MX's in three different locations wich are connect through 
SMF like in attached drawing.
The customer is complaining about "transitions, beaconings and claims".
My first reaction on this was: OK this is normal because the ring is not
closed. But the customer's point is: yes maybe, but in this case the ring 
should behave like when a cable failure occurs and should wrap primary and 
secondary ring together. 
I'm not sure about this. Can somebody confirm this to me.

The customer thinks more to have a problem with the fibre-connections or
with the sensitivity of the receivers we use in the SMF-PMD. The fibre
is supplied by the local PPT and they garantees an attenuation of no more than
21dB for the connection. I relation of this I would like to what the output
power and the sensitivity is of the SMF-PMD's.

Or does anybody has some general remarks.


Rgds.....Peter

	
	     1		     2               3
	+----------+	+----------+	+----------+
	|	   |	|	   | 	|          |
	+B	  A+====+B	  A+====+B        A|
        | DC900MX  |	| DC900MX  |	| DC900MX  |
	|    M     |    |    M     |    |    M     |
	+----+-----+	+----+-----+    +----+-----+
	     |		     |		     |
	     |		     |		     |
	     |		     |		     |
	+----+-----+	+----+-----+	+----+-----+	
	|    S     |    |    B     |    |    B     |
	|	   |	|	   |	|	   |
	| CISCo4000|	| CISCO AGS|    | CISCO AGS|
	+----------+	+----------+	+----------+



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1483.156821::STEFANIHave the # for the Mars Observer?Tue Oct 25 1994 09:3410
>>closed. But the customer's point is: yes maybe, but in this case the ring 
>>should behave like when a cable failure occurs and should wrap primary and 
>>secondary ring together. 
>>I'm not sure about this. Can somebody confirm this to me.
    
    I agree with the customer.  Once the ring wraps you should not see
    constant state transitions, beacons, and claims.  Looks like something
    else is going on.
    
    /l
1483.2BIS5::RUTTENSTue Oct 25 1994 11:488
    I forgot to mention a maybe inportant fact.
    
    When one of the routers is switched off, the hole ring seems to RESET 
    and breaking down all connections.
    This process takes 3/4 minutes before the network is back on line.
    
    Rgds....P.
    
1483.3y56821::B_CRONINWed Oct 26 1994 19:4122
    My suspicion is that there is a trace being launched by the cisco 
    boxes. Here are a few things to look for:
    
    1) The ring is unusable for about 12 seconds, then the DEC products
    drop off line, self test, comeback, and it starts all over again. 
    
    2) A network monitor in the ring will show the address of the beaconing
    station - if you have a tekelec, DTI, or W&G monitor, set it up to
    find beacons, and see who is beaconing. That will tell you where the 
    break is. The beacons will be there for > 10 seconds if things are 
    working as they should. 
    
    3) Look for the TRACE message (Master Line State) being sent from the 
    beaconer. 
    
    
    This is difficult to diagnose, so pay close attention to the lights and
    the monitors. 
    
    Send me mail if you need more help on this
    
    
1483.4Who tested the fiber?40222::PETTENGILLmulpSat Oct 29 1994 00:182
Are they saying that 21db or less _is_ the number, or that they will make the
number be no more than 21db if necessary.