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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1340.0. "Configuration help please" by KAOFS::S_HYNDMAN (Acronym Decoder Ring Architect) Thu May 19 1994 16:04


	We are implementing a Business Recovery Service aka MDF based on 
GIGASWITCH, DECnis and DEChub 900 technology.  We are implementing two
FDDI rings with DECnis as the firewall between rings.  I would like some input
as to the best way to configure these components. 

	     BLDG #1		         BLDG #2

	    __________                ____________
DECnis -----|        |                |          |------- DECnis
ALPHAs------|        |                | GIGA     |------- ALPHAs
DB900MX-----| GIGA   |----------------| SWITCH   |------- DB900MX
            | SWITCH |                |          |
DECnis -----|        |                |          |------- DECnis
   \        ----------                ------------           /
    \                                                       /
   Ring #2  -------------------------------------------- RING #2



The Alphas will connect to the GIGASWITCHes using FGL-4 with SAS modules.  
However I'm not sure which is the prefered method for connecting the DECnis's
and DECbridge 900MXs.  I see two options with varying redundancy through dual 
homing.  Would it be better to place a second device directly on the ring with 
the GIGASWITCH to provide module redundancy or go with more M ports?  Will I 
still have FDX while dual homing?
   

I will try to draw these. 

Using two FGL-2 modules in a GIGAswitch:  
* FGL-4 not shown

Option #1
---------

DECNIS  --------m	a---------\/---	a	m
	|   /---m	b --------/\---	b	m	
        |__/_____________ 
900MX ____/              \				Same config
      ----------m	m-\		m	m
	     --	m	m--		m	m
	     |	          |
	     |	          |
	     ----a  b------

		DECNIS #2


Option #2
---------

       ________ m
DECNIS ___       	a------\	a	m
         |    /-m	b---| 	\-------b	m	
  |------|---/              |				same config
900MX    |                  | 
  |------|------m	a-| |     /------a	m  
	 |------m	b-|-|----/	 b	m
	     	          | |
	                  | |
	          a  b----| |
		  |---------|
			
		DECNIS #2



	All feedback welcome.

Scott
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1340.1Not supported at the momentVNABRW::WELSCH_KFri May 20 1994 15:0220
    Hi Scott !
    
    The actual BRS Version is V1.1 . This version is NOT supporting
    Gigaswitch and DECbridge 900 !
    
    The version V1.2 ( scheduled for 15.6.1994 ) will support the
    Gigaswitch, V2.0 ( scheduled for mid august 1994 ) will bring the
    support for DECbridge 900.
    
    This is just for info, you should check with BRS Engineering before
    implementing this solution.
    
    ( Any specialist will not see a problem, but a BRS cluster is the
    highest availabilty cluster, so BRS engineering have to do very
    extensive testing before supporting components. )
    
    regards
    
    Kurt
    
1340.2KAOFS::S_HYNDMANAcronym Decoder Ring ArchitectFri May 20 1994 17:5810
    
    
    Thanks for the heads up Kurt.
    
    	This project is slated for completion in September for the DEC
    KAO facility (the one that pumps out our great pcs).  We have been 
    checking with engineering on an ongoing basis.
    
    
    Scott
1340.3KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, B-16504Fri May 20 1994 18:3014
I can see the need for extensive testing, but I can't see why that
requires new versions; it only requires new support statements.

Anyway, the first configuration looks simpler and cleaner to me.
Dual homing is a good way to get redundancy, it has none of the
hassles of running the dual ring to additional nodes (as in the second
example).

Dual homing will not affect full duplex.  Note that full duplex is not
particularly useful with the DB900 since you can only push 60 Mb/s out
the other end.  So the performance gain from full duplex isn't actually
useful there.

	paul