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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1323.0. "OSF/1 performance problem with Bricks" by COPCLU::TRIER (Jens Trier Rasmussen DK Health Industries) Fri Apr 22 1994 16:10

Cross-posted in: FDDI, Alpha_OSF and Bricks

I'm having a performance problem running FDDI between 2 Alpha AXPs running
OSF/1. My configuration is:

	DEC3000-600, OSF/1 V2.0, DEFTA
	DEC3000-300, OSF/1 V1.3, DEFZA

The 2 machines are connected point-to-point in the same IP subnet.

When I run the Bricks demo using UDP I can get a throughput around 30 Mbps,
when the 300 is sending to the 600. I haven't tested the other way round. I
would have expected to achieve throughput around 95Mbps.

I'm using Bricks TxMsg to 32,739. I have changed the following kernel 
parameters:
                unpst_sendspace = 32K
		unpst_recvspace = 32K
		udp_sendspace = 40K
		udp_recvspace = 40K
	        sb_max=(u_long)153600
		udpcksum = 0

Any ideas what can be wrong ?

best regards
	Jens
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1323.1KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, B-16504Fri Apr 22 1994 16:373
Get a DEFTA.  The DEFZA is much slower; I think that's the full explanation.

	paul
1323.2JEDI::CAUDILLKelly - Net Tech Support - 226-6815Sat Apr 23 1994 09:3138
            <<< JEDI::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]BRICKS.NOTE;1 >>>
                  -< Bricks - a networking performance demo >-
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Note 27.1             OSF/1 performance problem with Bricks               1 of 1
JEDI::CAUDILL "Kelly - Net Tech Support - 226-6815"  31 lines  23-APR-1994 08:28
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    Heather Gray answered this in the alpha_osf_ift conference.  See below.
    She is an expert, btw.
    
    The only thing I would add to her "throw away that DEFZA - get a DEFTA"
    message is that, these days, I no longer turn off UDP checksum.  For
    that matter, I don't use UDP very much any more.  Using DEC3000/400
    workstations (with DEFTA), you can get 98Mbps using TCP without doing
    anything questionable like turning off checksums. 
    
    
            <<< AOSG::$1$DIA3:[NOTES$LIBRARY]ALPHA_OSF_IFT.NOTE;1 >>>
             -< DEC OSF/1 AXP V1.2 and beyond -- field test, etc. >-
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Note 5272.1               FDDI UDP performance problem                    1 of 1
SMURF::HEATHER "Heather Gray"                        13 lines  22-APR-1994 17:21
                              -< Nuke the DEFZA >-
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     The DEFZA doesn't use DMA on transmit.  While you might see a small
     improvement on your numbers by putting the DEFZA in the faster
     machine, and the DEFTA in the slower machine. I'd doubt you'd see much 
     over 50Mbit+/s.  I think ~54 was the most I'd seen on a 3000-500.
     
     Expect somewhere in the 78-88 range for a 3000-300 with DEFTA.
     
     BTW, the unpst_sendspace and unpst_recvspace variables are irrelevant
     to UDP - these are unix domain socket variables.   The rest of your
     variables seem to indicate you've covered everything that can be
     tweaked easily in the software.
     
     -Heather
    
    
1323.3Will try to get a DEFTACOPCLU::TRIERJens Trier Rasmussen DK Health IndustriesSat Apr 23 1994 12:525
    Thanks,
    
    I'll try to get a DEFTA.
    
    - jens