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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1259.0. "FDX advantages in a ring?" by TEGAN::DTOP2::Guyton (High Performance Systems) Thu Mar 03 1994 13:04

Is there anything about our FDX capable adapters that makes them better for 
token rings as opposed to just point-to-point?  I'm referring specifically to 
the FDX part.  My guess is none...?

thanks

- Fred
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1259.1QUIVER::STEFANIHave the # for the Mars Observer?Thu Mar 03 1994 15:0710
>>Is there anything about our FDX capable adapters that makes them better for 
>>token rings as opposed to just point-to-point?  I'm referring specifically to 
>>the FDX part.  My guess is none...?
    
    "Token rings"?  Not sure what you mean, but the FDDI adapters that are
    full-duplex (FDX) capable can go into FDX mode when attached
    point-point with another FDX capable adapter -OR- when attached to the
    Digital GIGAswitch which has FDX capable ports.
    
       - Larry
1259.2KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, B-16504Thu Mar 03 1994 17:3210
I think the answer could be "yes".

Full duplex operations demands higher internal bandwidth and more buffering
in the adapter and in the system driving it.  The fact that an adapter is
capable of operating in that mode says clearly that it won't have any problem
at all running well in normal ring (half duplex) mode.

Competitors' adapters may be designed to lesser standards.

	paul
1259.3SummaryTEGAN::DTOP2::GuytonHigh Performance SystemsFri Mar 04 1994 11:0510
Thanks.  I believe the answers you give me amount to "no" and "yes".  

No... FDX doesn't help any when sitting on a normal FDDI ring, but,

Yes... an adapter that has been designed to do FDX naturally will be a high 
performing adapter.

comments?

- Fred
1259.4QUIVER::STEFANIHave the # for the Mars Observer?Fri Mar 04 1994 21:2421
>>No... FDX doesn't help any when sitting on a normal FDDI ring, but,

    Well, with a normal FDDI ring being 3 or more MACs?  Yes, you're right,
    FDX won't help you.  Two adapters point-point still counts as a ring and
    FDX can play a part in that (albeit simple) ring.  Also, when you move off
    an FDDI ring model to an FDDI switch model, FDX can play a useful role.
    
    Bottom line, if you're connected to a concentrator, it doesn't make
    much sense to talk to IT in full-duplex, and as soon as you add the
    other station, you have 3 MACs and FDX is no longer possible.
    
>>Yes... an adapter that has been designed to do FDX naturally will be a high 
>>performing adapter.

    We like to think so, but the truth is, there are very few
    systems/applications that would drive the FDDI line speed to the point
    where FDX becomes important.  This may change as systems get faster and
    faster, though, so I don't want to downplay the significance of this
    unique characteristic of Digital FDDI adapters.
    
       - Larry