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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1221.0. "TURBOchannel FDDI Adapter INFO" by DELNI::G_NIELSEN () Thu Feb 03 1994 11:58

DEC FDDIcontroller/TURBOchannel New DAS, UTP, and SAS, Options Announced

CONTACT

George Nielsen DTN: 226-5510, (508)486-5510, LKG2-1/W06

HIGHLIGHTS

* Three New Models including SAS & DAS with MMF, and SAS TP-UTP copper 
  with initial support on OSF/1 V2.0 ONLY beginning END-FEB-94

* Provides FDDI connectivity for Digital Systems and Workstations utilizing
  a TURBOchannel I/O bus. 

* Includes SMT V7.2 for continued multi-vendor Interoperability, and uses 
  DMA transfers on both transmit and receive to minimize CPU overhead

CUSTOMER PROBLEM

o Requires a Standards Based, Multi-Vendor Interoperable, High Bandwidth 
  Local Area Network.

o Requires a lower cost copper Unshielded Twisted Pair cable plant

o Requires Dual Attachment Station (DAS) option to support connecting Servers
  directly in an FDDI dual ring without a Wiring Concentrator or Hub, or as
  as a high availability "dual-homed" connection to two Wiring Concentrators

o Requires Single Attachment Station (SAS) option to simplify end-user station
  management, and to isolate the backbone from end-user reconfiguration
  disruptions

o Requires point-to-point bandwidth in excess of 100 Megabit/Sec.

DIGITAL SOLUTION

The DEC FDDIcontroller/TURBOchannel provides TURBOchannel to FDDI connectivity 
for Digital Systems and Workstations utilizing a TURBOchannel I/O bus.  This 
adapter is available as a SAS option using either MMF or copper Unshielded
Twisted Pair Cable (UTP), and as a DAS option using MMF with support for an 
external 3rd party Optical Bypass Relay (OBR).

CUSTOMER BENEFITS

o The DAS option allows connection directly into an FDDI dual-ring
  without a wiring concentrator or Hub.

o The DAS option Provides enhanced system reliability and availability via 
  support for dual homing, and an external 3rd party Optical Bypass Relay (OBR)

o Provides the highest aggregate throughput, in excess of 100 Megabits/Sec
  when operated in Full-Duplex Mode.  Full-Duplex requires Point-to-Point 
  connection with another Digital FDDI adapter (except DEFZA), or to Digital's 
  GIGAswitch.  Full-Duplex operates without a token, and allows simultaneous 
  transmit and receive at aggregate data rates in excess of 100 Megabits/Sec 
  up to (140 --> 160 Megabits/Sec).



COMPETITIVE COMPARISON

The competition for this controller is primarily indirect at the system level, 
and will typically involve other I/O bus types.  

Digital's competitive strengths include:

o  A portfolio of high performance, high reliability FDDI controllers for 
   PCs, workstations, servers, and multi-user high-end systems (EISA, Q-bus, 
   TURBOchannel, XMI-Bus, and Profile "B" FUTUREBUS)

o  Digital's Patented Full-Duplex mode to provide aggregate bandwidths in 
   excess of 100 Megabits per Second, up to 140 --> 160 Megabits/Sec

o  In combination with Digital's GIGAswitch, extends the range of FDDI 
   applications by supporting scaleable system bandwidth through the use
   of switched FDDI network technology

o  Complete solution vendor

o  FDDI technology leader

o  System integrator for multi-vendor networks

o  Worldwide network of support

CHANNELS STRATEGY

The new DEC FDDIcontroller/TURBOchannel adapters will be sold by the Digital 
direct sales force, and can also be sold by Digital's Business Partners 
including: VARs, Developers, Distributors, Master Resellers, Integrators, and 
Technical OEMs.

PRICING/ORDERING INFORMATION
							   US
Model No. Description			Quantity    MLP	  List  OEM  BMC  Inst
--------- ----------------------------  --------  ------  ----  ---  ---  ----
DEFTA-AA  SAS TURBOchnl to FDDI Adptr 	   1+ 	  $2,250    N    T   $11  $300
	  w/MMF using ST connectors
DEFTA-DA  DAS TURBOchnl to FDDI Adptr      1+     $2,950    N	 T   $16  $300
	  w/MMF using ST connectors
DEFTA-UA  SAS TURBOchnl to FDDI Adapter    1+     $1,350    N	 T   $ 8  $300
	  w/TP-UTP using TP-MIC (RJ-45
          receptacle)

o Cables are NOT included! (Listed for reference)

  BN25H-03 UTP CAT 5 Crossover 8MP/8MP; BN24D-xx MIC/ST; BN24E-xx ST/ST

o Optical Bypass Relay for use with MMF DAS ONLY, is NOT available from 
  Digital (Listed for reference)

  AMP 501916-3 (w/6 pin Modular Jack Connector)

SERVICES

The normal portfolio of hardware, and OSF/1 Operating System service offerings 
are available.  For further information please contact your local Digital 
Services representative.



TECHNICAL DATA

Like it predecessors, the new DEC FDDIcontroller/TURBOchannel adapters utilize
electrically programmable FLASH ROM to hold its functional firmware and 
diagnostics.  In the event a need develops to update the adapter's on-board 
firmware, the ALPHA LFU utility CDROM will be updated to include the new 
firmware, as well as, other host load utilities.  All DEFTAs are FCC Class
"A" Certified for office use.

Hardware Requirements & Configuration Rules

o  The currently shipping DEFTA-FA and the new DEFTA-AA are form, fit,
   and function identical - except, the -AA has a new driver readable
   device ID which requires updated device drivers in order to be supported.

   The -AA incorporates higher density technology which results in an
   overall reduced cost to manufacture.  At such time as the -AA has 
   across the board operating system support, the DEFTA-FA will be retired.

o  The DEFTA-UA can be connected point-to-point with another DEFTA-UA, or
   the DEF6U-MA (DECconcentrator 900-MX) module in combination with a docking
   station or plugged into a DEChub 900, or other ANSI TP-UTP compliant option.

o  One TURBOchannel Slot

o  For Number of controllers supported per Digital System - Refer to respective
   Host Operating System SPD.

Current Software Requirements:

o  The new DEFTA-AA/-DA options are currently ONLY SUPPORTED on OSF/1 V2.0

o  All new ALPHA OSF/1 V2.0 System orders should specify the DEFTA-AA instead
   of the DEFTA-FA.  

o  Please Note:  The DEFTA-UA is NOT available, and will NOT be supported
   by OSF/1 until April-94.

o  All other platforms currently supporting the DEFTA-FA should continue to
   order the -FA, until such time as -AA, as well as, -DA/-UA operating
   system support is announced.

o  Additional platform support announcements are expected during Q3 and Q4
   FY94.  Please contact the respective operating system product manager,
   or the author for the latest support schedule information.  Status will
   also be posted in the FDDI Notes File - Note:

Configuration Restrictions:

o  OSF/1 V2.0 or later

RESOURCES

o  Internal:		FDDI Notes File - UPSAR::FDDI
			Contact: George Nielsen

o  External:		Contact: George Nielsen

TRADEMARKS

	AMP 


    
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1221.1DEFZA-CA RETIRES IMMEDIATELYDELNI::G_NIELSENMon Mar 07 1994 08:1257
                            DRAFT - SALES UPDATE ARTICLE
			    ============================    
    Contact:  George Nielsen
              226-5510
              DELNI::G_NIELSEN
              LKG1-2/W06
    
    SUBJECT:  DEC FDDIcontroller 700 DEFZA-CA Retires
    
    Effective immediately, the DEC FDDIcontroller 700 (DEFZA-CA) is retired,
    that is, moved to maintenance only.   


						  Last	    Last
						  Order	    Ship
    Model No.	Description			  Date	    Date    Migration
    ---------	------------------------------  --------  --------- ---------

    DEFZA-CA    TURBOchannel to FDDI Adapter	1-APR-94  24-JUN-94   (1)
		supporting STP and TW copper
		medias.

    NOTES: 

    Every effort must be made to redirect all FDDI copper media requirements
    to the DEFTA-UA which supports the ANSI Std Unshielded Twisted Pair
    (UTP) CAT 5 copper PMD Standard.

    It should be understood that due to a limited supply of on-the-shelf
    DEFZA-CAs (no additional units can be built), every effort must be
    made to update all outstanding quotations to reflect the DEFTA-UAs 
    instead of the DEFZA-CAs.  All new FDDI copper requirements must be
    satisfied with the DEFTA-UA.

    Remember, the DEFTA-UA utilizes DMA transfers on both transmit and 
    receive, whereas, the DEFZA-CA only utilizes DMA transfers on receive.  
    In terms of system overhead, particularly in server applications, the 
    DEFTA-UA provides superior performance.  

	No DEFZA-CA quotes should be issued without first verifying 
	product availability.

	No DEFZA-CA orders should be entered without first verifying
	product availability.

    The DEFTA-UA can be used with the new DEF6U Six Port DEChub 900
    module, as well as, other ANSI FDDI UTP PMD Compliant concentrator, 
    hub, or switch product.

    The DEFTA-UA operating system support will become available in April.
    Contact the author or specific operating system product manager for 
    details on schedules.

    

    
1221.2DEFTA-AA/-DA/-UA MANDATORY PATCHESDELNI::G_NIELSENWed Jun 29 1994 18:3825
    Please be advised that the recently released TURBOchannel adapters:
    
    	DEFTA-AA SAS MMF
    	DEFTA-DA DAS MMF
    	DEFTA-UA SAS UTP
    
    are ONLY supported on OSF/1 at this time, and that there are MANDATORY
    OSF/1 patches required prior to using the adapters.  The patches are:
    
    Digital OSF/1 V1.3 with patches.osf-v1.3-27may94.tar.z patch kit
    Digital OSF/1 V2.0 with patches.osf-v2.0-27may94.tar.z patch kit
    Digital OSF/1 V3.0 or later
    
    Use of the -AA/-DA/-UA on any other operating system can result in
    unreliable operation, including data corruption.
    
    OpenVMS and ULTRIX have not yet committed to providing patches.  Feel
    free to harass them directly.  Current discussions suggest DEC-94.
    
    Also, Dennis Majikas has assumed product management for the TURBOchannel 
    FDDI adapters - SCHOOL::MAJIKAS
    
    Regards
    
    George
1221.3The DEFTA-FA (MMF) is still volume shipping!NPSS::WADENetwork Systems SupportThu Aug 04 1994 09:551
    
1221.4Any update on patches? Why isn't DEFTA supported on DEC 3000/700 and 900 systems?4520::FOXDavid B. Fox -- DTN 285-2091Mon Oct 17 1994 12:1015
Hi!
	We're now 4 months later.  Any update on when patches will be available
for OpenVMS?

	Also, can someone fill me in on why, according to the OpenVMS SPD,
DEFTA's are not supported on Model 700 and 900 systems?  The SPD claims that the
DEFZA is.  Isn't the DEFZA end-of-life at this point?

	If this is a "because it hasn't been qualified yet" issue that's fine as
I need this configuration to test DECnet/OSI.  As long as I can plug it onto the 
TurboChannel connector and it is the right form factor I should be all set.
Provided I can also get the required patches for VMS...

	Thanks!
		David
1221.556821::STEFANIHave the # for the Mars Observer?Mon Oct 17 1994 14:355
    Try contacting Linda Duffell at STAR::DUFFELL.  I know she works on the
    OpenVMS drivers for DEFEA and DEFPA, so she probably knows about DEFTA
    support.
    
    /l
1221.6STAR::STOCKDALEThu Oct 27 1994 13:3918
>>	We're now 4 months later.  Any update on when patches will be available
>>for OpenVMS?

The DEFTA/DEFEA drivers in V6.2 expected to ship Feb '95 have the workaround
to do unaligned buffer copies for transmit requests for those revisions of the
DEFTA/DEFEA afflicted with the early version of the cost-reduced PDQ chip.

This same driver (DEFTA only) built for V6.1 is in qual.  This hasn't been
a big priority but its in progress and I expect it will be available as a
TIMA kit in about a month.  Meanwhile, I'll be happy to give out this driver.

>>	Also, can someone fill me in on why, according to the OpenVMS SPD,
>>DEFTA's are not supported on Model 700 and 900 systems?  The SPD claims that the
>>DEFZA is.  Isn't the DEFZA end-of-life at this point?

The DEFTA is supported.  The SPD should be updated.

- Dick
1221.7ZUR01::HOTZGregor; MCS, NaC Support, SchweizWed Nov 30 1994 04:1810
re -.1 hi Dick,

>This same driver (DEFTA only) built for V6.1 is in qual.  This hasn't been
>a big priority but its in progress and I expect it will be available as a
>TIMA kit in about a month.  Meanwhile, I'll be happy to give out this driver.

it's been a month and I can't find the driver kit in tima. Several defta-ua
have been sold here for AlphaStations and we need the driver for AXP VMS 6.1.

greg
1221.8driver available?MUNICH::SCHALLEREva Schaller *DSC* 895-6146Fri Jan 13 1995 07:057
    
    ANY NEWS?
    I'm also having a customer with DEFTA-UA problems on VMS AXP 6.1
    A pointer to the new driver (VMS 6.2) would be highly appreciated.
    
    thanks eva
    
1221.9Alpha VMS and VAX VMS supportSTAR::STOCKDALETue Apr 25 1995 11:3813
For Alpha VMS, the name of the TIMA kit is AXPLAN02_061 although it
appears that this has been superceded by a later one called AXPLAN03_061.
This contains SYS$FCDRIVER.EXE with support for all flavors of the DEFTA.
V6.2 has complete support as well.

For VAX VMS, the DEFTA-FA is the only module supported primarily because
the autoconfiguration code only recognizes the device type for the DEFTA-FA.
The driver would also need to be updated to provide support for the modified
PDQ chip on the DEFTA variants and that driver is not ready.  It is planned
to be done sometime in calendar year 1995.

Dick Stockdale
VMS LAN drivers
1221.10Any update ?52446::ERANEran Gorev @ISO, DTN : 882-3402Tue Aug 22 1995 05:068
    
    Any update ?
    
    When will OpenVMS VAX support the DEFTA-AA ?
    
    Thanks,
    EG
    
1221.11An update would be appreciated!MKOTS3::BLANCHETTEWed Nov 08 1995 16:1712
An update would be appreciated!!!

    
    When will OpenVMS VAX support the DEFTA-AA ?
    
	Also, will it ever work with VMS 5.5-2?

thanks

rick
    

1221.12Preliminary patch for DEFTA variantsSTAR::STOCKDALEThu Nov 09 1995 14:3394
This is an unofficial patch file that should allow use of the DEFTA-AA,
DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA in VAX systems running VAX/VMS version V6.0, V6.1,
V6.2, V7.0.

$!
$! VAX/VMS DEFTA driver patch to add support of DEFTA-AA, DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA.
$!
$!                VAX/VMS Version V6.0, V6.1, V6.2, V7.0
$!
$! +------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE ---------------------------+
$! |                                                                    |
$! |      Requires DEFTA-AA, DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA with fixed PDQ chip.    |
$! |                                                                    |
$! |      Using the existing DEFTA driver without a fixed PDQ chip      |
$! |      result in undetected data corruption.  This is not just a     |
$! |      chance of data corruption - it is a guarantee of data         |
$! |      corruption.  You MUST verify that the PDQ chip is the         |
$! |      correct version.                                              |
$! |                                                                    |
$! |      The fixed PDQ chip is the large chip on the module labelled   |
$! |      DC7223 with a Digital part number just above the chip number. |
$! |      The part number is 21-34812-04.  The previous version was     |
$! |      21-34812-03.                                                  |
$! |                                                                    |
$! +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
$ TYPE SYS$INPUT

This patch command file patches:

    SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYSLOA46.EXE
    SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYSLOA49.EXE

This allows the DEFTA-AA, DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA to be recognized by
VAX/VMS autoconfiguration.

The following versions of the DEFTA are supported by FCDRIVER.EXE:

  DEFTA-FA, all versions
  DEFTA-AA, only versions with PDQ chip 21-34812-04 and later.
  DEFTA-UA, only versions with PDQ chip 21-34812-04 and later.
  DEFTA-DA, only versions with PDQ chip 21-34812-04 and later.

  The fixed PDQ chip is the large chip on the module labelled
  DC7223 with a Digital part number just above the chip number.
  The part number of the fixed chip is 21-34812-04.  The previous
  version was 21-34812-03.

$ ver = "''f$getsyi("version")"
$ ver = f$edit(ver,"COMPRESS,TRIM")
$ set def sys$loadable_images:
$ if ver .eqs. "V6.0" then goto patchv60
$ if ver .eqs. "V6.1" then goto patchv61
$ if ver .eqs. "V6.2" then goto patchv62
$ if ver .eqs. "V7.0" then goto patchv70
$ write sys$output "? Patch is valid only for V6.0, V6.1, V6.2, V7.0"
$ exit
$ patchv60:
$ patch sysloa46.exe
verify/inst 0ce0+206-30
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ patch sysloa49.exe
verify/inst 0b48+206-30
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ exit
$ patchv61:
$ patchv62:
$ patchv70:
$ patch sysloa46.exe
verify/inst 0ce0+206
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ patch sysloa49.exe
verify/inst 0b48+206
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ exit
1221.13Any possible for 5.5-2 ?TPOMC1::SUNNYSOONGThu Nov 16 1995 02:428
    Re .12
    
    Is it possible to make a patch version for VMS 5.5-2 ?
    One of my customer need to stay on 5.5-2 and they have bought
    the DEFTA-AA
    
    Thanks
    Sunny
1221.14Updated for V5.5-2H4STAR::STOCKDALEMon Nov 20 1995 05:23122
I assume the customer is running V5.5-2H4 since V5.5-2 doesn't have DEFTA
support at all.  Here is an updated patch.  You might have to edit it to
modify the version that is being checked for as I'm not sure what version
string is returned by the GETSYI for V5.5-2H4.

- Dick

        ======================================================

This is an unofficial patch file that should allow use of the DEFTA-AA,
DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA in VAX systems running VAX/VMS version V5.5-2H4, V6.0,
V6.1, V6.2, V7.0.

$!
$! VAX/VMS DEFTA driver patch to add support of DEFTA-AA, DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA.
$!
$!            VAX/VMS Version V5.5-2H4, V6.0, V6.1, V6.2, V7.0
$!
$! +------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTE ---------------------------+
$! |                                                                    |
$! |      Requires DEFTA-AA, DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA with fixed PDQ chip.    |
$! |                                                                    |
$! |      Using the existing DEFTA driver without a fixed PDQ chip      |
$! |      result in undetected data corruption.  This is not just a     |
$! |      chance of data corruption - it is a guarantee of data         |
$! |      corruption.  You MUST verify that the PDQ chip is the         |
$! |      correct version.                                              |
$! |                                                                    |
$! |      The fixed PDQ chip is the large chip on the module labelled   |
$! |      DC7223 with a Digital part number just above the chip number. |
$! |      The part number is 21-34812-04.  The previous version was     |
$! |      21-34812-03.                                                  |
$! |                                                                    |
$! +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
$ TYPE SYS$INPUT

This patch command file patches:

    SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYSLOA46.EXE
    SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYSLOA49.EXE

This allows the DEFTA-AA, DEFTA-UA, DEFTA-DA to be recognized by
VAX/VMS autoconfiguration.

The following versions of the DEFTA are supported by FCDRIVER.EXE:

  DEFTA-FA, all versions
  DEFTA-AA, only versions with PDQ chip 21-34812-04 and later.
  DEFTA-UA, only versions with PDQ chip 21-34812-04 and later.
  DEFTA-DA, only versions with PDQ chip 21-34812-04 and later.

  The fixed PDQ chip is the large chip on the module labelled
  DC7223 with a Digital part number just above the chip number.
  The part number of the fixed chip is 21-34812-04.  The previous
  version was 21-34812-03.

$ ver = "''f$getsyi("version")"
$ ver = f$edit(ver,"COMPRESS,TRIM")
$ set def sys$loadable_images:
$ if ver .eqs. "V5.5-2H4" then goto patchv552h4
$ if ver .eqs. "V6.0" then goto patchv60
$ if ver .eqs. "V6.1" then goto patchv61
$ if ver .eqs. "V6.2" then goto patchv62
$ if ver .eqs. "V7.0" then goto patchv70
$ write sys$output "? Patch is valid only for V5.5-2H4, V6.0, V6.1, V6.2, V7.0"
$ exit
$ patchv552h4:
$ patch sysloa46.exe
verify/inst 0bd0+204
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ patch sysloa49.exe
verify/inst 0b80+204
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ exit
$ patchv60:
$ patch sysloa46.exe
verify/inst 0ce0+206-30
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ patch sysloa49.exe
verify/inst 0b48+206-30
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ exit
$ patchv61:
$ patchv62:
$ patchv70:
$ patch sysloa46.exe
verify/inst 0ce0+206
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ patch sysloa49.exe
verify/inst 0b48+206
"movl #08,r2"
exit
dep/byte .+1=06
e/i .-1
update
exit
$ exit
1221.15thanks..TPOMC2::SUNNYSOONGThu Nov 23 1995 01:073
    Thanks a lot.
    
    Sunny
1221.16is .9 correct ? or the sheet coming with DEFTA-UA ?HANSBC::BACHNERMouse not found. Click OK to continueFri Dec 01 1995 13:5215
A customer has got an DEFTA-UA (for his DEC3000) and mentioned that it came with
a piece of paper saying that it required OpenVMS/Alpha V6.1-1H2 for proper
operation and also that it would not work with V6.2.

This is in contradiction to .9, which says:

� For Alpha VMS, the name of the TIMA kit is AXPLAN02_061 although it
� appears that this has been superceded by a later one called AXPLAN03_061.
� This contains SYS$FCDRIVER.EXE with support for all flavors of the DEFTA.
� V6.2 has complete support as well.

Can anyone resolve this confusion ?

Thanks in advance,
Hans.
1221.17STAR::STOCKDALESun Dec 03 1995 06:583
.9 is correct.

- Dick
1221.18how is that patch in .12,.1441027::KMANNERINGSThu Feb 29 1996 08:2812
    Hi there, 
    
    I have some MCS guys complaining that the patch in 1221.12 , 1221.14 is not
    "official" and they therefore don't want to use it, which is causing
    much nashing of teeth amoung the sales team dealing with it. Why is the
    patch unofficial, are there any official ones in the meantime, does it
    work okay?
    
    Thanks for any info.
    
    Kevin Mannerings
    ESSC Galway dtn 822 4320
1221.19STAR::STOCKDALEThu Feb 29 1996 09:0116
>>Why is the patch unofficial, are there any official ones in the meantime, does it
>>work okay?
    
Its unofficial because the real fix will not be VAX/VMS until V7.1.

There are no official ones in the meantime and the probability that there
will be one before V7.1 is about as close to nil as you can get.  If someone
doesn't want to use it, they can wait or obtain a DEFTA-FA.

It works, assuming that the version of the PDQ chip is really verified (if it
isn't verified, the result is undetected data corruption).

Customers are better off with the fixed modules (as described in the patch)
because of the performance implications of a driver workaround.

- Dick
1221.20references needed for the patch54382::DECOCKMon Aug 05 1996 11:396
    Does anybody has a list of references where we have already implemented
    this unofficial patch ?
    
    It seems a bit tricky to implement this patch in a production
    environment. If we have a problem due to the patch, who will take the
    responsibility ?
1221.2119584::STOCKDALEFri Aug 09 1996 11:468
>>    It seems a bit tricky to implement this patch in a production
>>    environment. If we have a problem due to the patch, who will take the
>>    responsibility ?

The solution then is to use DEFTA-FA modules which don't need the patch.  Or
wait until V7.1 comes out.

- Dick