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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1051.0. "FDDI Rcv Power Measurement ??" by VNASWS::HONISCH (Guenter Honisch ACT Austria) Fri Aug 06 1993 06:18

    At a recent Fiber Certification we tried several methods to determine
    the Loss of a Fiber Path consisting of several patched segments.
    
    The fiber is a european 50/125 NA 0.2 Type which gives me a budget of
    6 dB with FDDI
    
    besides OTDR and Powermeter we used a FDDI Bridge as a source to
    doublecheck our numbers.
    
    In the Handouts of the FOFT Training they mention a Way to measure
    Output Pwr of FDDI Devices by a Powermeter and calculate the Loss on 
    the fiber. 
    The Values given are : -14 dBm to -31 dBm for receive
    BUT as far as I know FDDI Xmits a 50% Square Wave except in Halt State
    
    *************************************************************************
    Does this mean i have to adjust these Values by 50% (-3dBm) ???
    so that I should read -11 dBm to -28 dBm for receive ???
    *************************************************************************
    
    
                  ____                         -------
                  |  B  |-    PATCHFIBER      -|       |
                  |  R  | |------------------| |anritsu|   16,6 dBm
                  |  I  |-       62.5/125     -|       |
                  |  Dge|                       -------
                   ____
    
    
    
    
                   ____  62.5                   -------
                  |  B  |-      Fiber         -|       |
                  |  R  | |-|--/\/\/\/\/\/---| |anritsu|   
                  |  I  |-      50/125        -|       |   -27,07dBm 
                  |  Dge|                       -------
                   ____
    
    
    Result: -16.6 dBm Launch Power + 6dB adjust (50/125 <=> 62.5/125)= -22.6dBm
            -27,0 dBm Rcv Power	- (-22.6dBm) = 4.4 dB resulting Fiber Loss
    
    
    	    Using normal Loss metering without a Bridge we got 5.1 dB 
    
    	    (in these cases we used TWICE the needed Length to be safe)
    
    Are these assumptions valid??
    
    
    							Guenter
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1051.1A correction of 5 dB, not 6 dBLEVERS::KIRKtis a gift to be simpleFri Aug 06 1993 10:4584
Guenter,

     I think I can offer an explanation for the different cable loss 
     figures. You state that using 50/125 fibers gives you a loss budget of 
     6 dB - a difference of 5 dB from the loss budget you would have with
     62.5/125 fibers.

     But in your calculations you used a 6 dB adjustment instead of a 5 dB
     adjustment.  If 5 dB is used, the calculation becomes:


    Result: -16.6 dBm Launch Power + 5dB adjust (50/125 <=> 62.5/125)= -21.6dBm
            -27,0 dBm Rcv Power	- (-21.6dBm) = 5.4 dB resulting Fiber Loss


     Which agrees fairly well with the other measured loss of 5.1 dB.



Richard Kirk
FDDI Adapter Engineering
LEVERS::KIRK




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Note 1051.0               FDDI Rcv Power Measurement ??               No replies
VNASWS::HONISCH "Guenter Honisch ACT Austria"        51 lines   6-AUG-1993 05:18
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    At a recent Fiber Certification we tried several methods to determine
    the Loss of a Fiber Path consisting of several patched segments.
    
    The fiber is a european 50/125 NA 0.2 Type which gives me a budget of
    6 dB with FDDI
    
    besides OTDR and Powermeter we used a FDDI Bridge as a source to
    doublecheck our numbers.
    
    In the Handouts of the FOFT Training they mention a Way to measure
    Output Pwr of FDDI Devices by a Powermeter and calculate the Loss on 
    the fiber. 
    The Values given are : -14 dBm to -31 dBm for receive
    BUT as far as I know FDDI Xmits a 50% Square Wave except in Halt State
    
    *************************************************************************
    Does this mean i have to adjust these Values by 50% (-3dBm) ???
    so that I should read -11 dBm to -28 dBm for receive ???
    *************************************************************************
    
    
                  ____                         -------
                  |  B  |-    PATCHFIBER      -|       |
                  |  R  | |------------------| |anritsu|   16,6 dBm
                  |  I  |-       62.5/125     -|       |
                  |  Dge|                       -------
                   ____
    
    
    
    
                   ____  62.5                   -------
                  |  B  |-      Fiber         -|       |
                  |  R  | |-|--/\/\/\/\/\/---| |anritsu|   
                  |  I  |-      50/125        -|       |   -27,07dBm 
                  |  Dge|                       -------
                   ____
    
    
    Result: -16.6 dBm Launch Power + 6dB adjust (50/125 <=> 62.5/125)= -22.6dBm
            -27,0 dBm Rcv Power	- (-22.6dBm) = 4.4 dB resulting Fiber Loss
    
    
    	    Using normal Loss metering without a Bridge we got 5.1 dB 
    
    	    (in these cases we used TWICE the needed Length to be safe)
    
    Are these assumptions valid??
    
    
    							Guenter
    
1051.2KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, A-13683Fri Aug 06 1993 11:5717
Re power measurement procedure:

FDDI signalling actually has a duty cycle between 40% and 60% (not fixed
at 50%, though 50% is the long term average).  "Quiet Line State", which
is the state of a disabled line, is an exception: that simply has the
transmitter turned off, i.e., 0 power.  (You should not call this "halted"
since that causes confusion; there is "halt line state" which is quite
a different thing.)

The FDDI standard states that power level measurements are done while
the station is transmitting "halt line state", which is a sequence of H
symbols -- corresponding to a 12.5 MHz squarewave signal.  So the test
signal indeed has a duty cycle of exactly 50%.  The power specs are written
for that test signal;  you should not adjust them further to take into account
the 50%, since that is already included in the standard numbers.

	paul