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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

944.0. "DB610, one way connectivity ->ether only" by STKHLM::WEBJORN (Gullik Webj�rn Product & Technology Group) Wed Apr 28 1993 13:07

    
	We have observed a case where it seems that a DB610 stops
	forwarding on one port. We have seen similar problems on
	both a DB610 w/o FDDI, and with a FDDI port. It seems
	this is triggered by excessive CRC errors on the ether
	segment. The condition seems to be latching, i.e. a power
	fail / reboot is required to clear the condition.

	pse. reply if you have seen any similar sympthome, I'll
	investigate further and assemble a proper bugreport.

    	also posted in ethernet notes file.
    
	Gullik

    
    
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944.1CRC errors are NOT normal in my experienceKEIKI::WHITEthe NAUGHTies 2001 - 2010Wed Apr 28 1993 20:298
    
    	Could someone speculate on why excessive CRC errors may be being
    seen at all?? The ONLY time I have regularly seen CRC errors was when
    sub-standard non shielded transceiver cables were being used. Other
    than defective wiring causing BCC errors and shorted thinwires etc,
    why would they be seeing excessive CRC errors?
    
    						Bill
944.2I've seen things like that.CGOS01::DMARLOWEdsk dsk dsk (tsk tsk tsk)Thu Apr 29 1993 10:289
    You never know what hides on these networks.  I observed a UB hub
    with 10BaseT cards.  The ports would autosegment correctly but
    sometimes take hours to restore.  I noted 22% CRC/FCS errors from
    this hub.  Fortunately the customers load was only 10%.  Can you
    imagine 22% errors on a 40% load?
    
    Strange but true.
    
    dave
944.3Can modify ebrPortTestPassedThresholdQUIVER::WALTERMon May 03 1993 15:0921
    This issue has been discussed elsewhere in this file, but I couldn't
    find the reference to it.
    
    When errors on a port exceed a certain level, it causes the bridge to
    stop forwarding on that port and perform a link confidence test. If the
    test fails, the bridge will try again later (like 15 seconds?). The
    bridge won't start forwarding again until the errors on that link go
    down to an acceptable level.

    The link confidence test actually performs N tests of the link, and it
    must pass all N times, else it gives up and tries again later. The
    default value of N is around 10, but it can be changed through the SNMP
    mib variable ebrPortTestPassedThreshold. By lowering the value, the
    test is more likely to pass.

    Of course, that's just hiding the real problem, which is the excessive
    errors on the line.

    Dave