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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

902.0. "Testing with SUN Sparc 10 and Concentrators" by CTOAVX::BEAULIEU () Thu Mar 18 1993 13:58

    
    	Does anybody know if we have tested SUN's new Sparc 10 mod 41 has
    been tested with our concentrators. The FDDI conection is a SAS Sbus
    device and the operating system is SUNos 4.1.3.  The reason I ask is
    My customer just put these on a ring and now we are getting unsolicited
    resets (many) and management resets (few). The other rings with no
    sparc 10s are clean. 
    
    
    	Thanks, Mike Beaulieu
    
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902.1How to troubleshoot unsolicited resets.HULLEY::HULLEYMon Mar 22 1993 13:387
I may be attempting to work in this problem (same customer). Is there a list
of this that can cause unsolicited resets on a concentrator 500. It seems
the concentrators with higher populations of these new systems increment this
counter more. I think this customer has an FDDI analyzer of some sort. What 
other tools could be used to determine the cause?

							tom
902.2Sun may need a patch ...wait ?LEMAN::BRUNNERFri May 14 1993 12:0111
    Hi all,
    
    Customer having 5 DEFCN 500 on which they have 1 Sun Sparc Center 2000
    and 31 Sun Sparc SS10 Stations was also having "Unsollicited resets".
    It seems that an engineer fron Sun flew in, installed a patch and no
    "Unsollicited resets" anymore. As soon as I know which patch was
    installed I will put another reply here.
    BTW: They were also running 4.1.3 of Sun/OS.
    
    Regards
    Walter
902.3Sun patch explained ...LEMAN::BRUNNERTue May 18 1993 13:3416
    Hi all,
    
    Partial answer:
    
    It seems to be a patch in some code for the SUN Sbus controller which
    detected some error on the line and sended a Trace. Customer tells
    that SMT rule says the concentrator should do a self-test. Our DEFCN
    does a reset and the "Unsollicited reset" counter increments as it
    should increment a "Sollicited self-test counter". In the MIB there is
    a number of received trace messages "eSMTTracesReceived" which stays 
    zero. 
    
    Is this counter then of any use and when should it increment ?
    
    Thanks Walter
    
902.4KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, A-13683Tue May 18 1993 16:323
Do you know why the Sun node started the trace?

	paul
902.5defcn v3.2 still resets (sun patch not in yet)CROWES::HULLEYMon May 24 1993 16:3813
    We still have this happening at our site. (No SUN patch yet)
    I attempted to capture a trace by having the concentrator issue a trap
    and triggering the analyzer off that event. So far all I have seen was
    non-stop beaconing from 1 sun station before the concentrator triggered
    the analyzer. I couldnt capture back far enough to see what led up to
    this (yet). 
    Any more info on the patch from sun? Whats it called, whats it fix
    specifically?
    And the big question: Is our concentrator doing the correct thing by
    doing the unsolicited reset?
    
    					Thanks
    						Tom
902.6KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, A-13683Mon May 24 1993 17:394
Re "the big question": yes.  A trace is a signal to execute selftest, which 
is done by resetting the box.

	paul
902.7How to trigger on a trace and see what preceeds itCROWES::HULLEYTue May 25 1993 09:238
    Excellent.. Now can you point me to the format of this trace frame so
    I can capture this on the analyzer. I havnt seen that yet on this site
    and would like to see it for myself.  Also, it seems only 1
    concentrator will log a reset at any given time. Will the trace not be
    seen by all the concentrators on the ring or might it be lost when
    it hits the first concentrator and it resets.
    
    						Tom
902.8KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, A-13683Tue May 25 1993 12:506
Trace isn't a frame.  Trace is signalled by MLS (master line state) on an
active port.

(see the SMT spec, chapter 9)

	paul
902.9No name for the patchLEMAN::BRUNNERWed May 26 1993 10:5613
    RE .4
    The SUN Sbus controller detects erronously a fault on the primary ring,
    therefore starts a trace on the secondary ring. This in turn causes
    the station and concentrator to leave the ring and run Pathtest. If an
    error is detected on one component, that component doesn't attempt to
    join the ring again. As both elements run Pathtest without errors they
    both reconnect to the ring. Everything starts again sometimes later.
    
    BTW: The "eSMTTracesReceived" counter never increments as it should when
         the Trace (MLS) is started. Will that be corrected sometime ?
    
    Best regards
    Walter