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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

789.0. "Need Technical Info on DECbridge for RFP Response" by RT95::NICHOLS (Network Consultant dtn 274-6933) Mon Nov 16 1992 16:25

I am responding to a customer RFP for the DECbridge
500/600. I could use some help with the following
questions:

How many internal buses does the DECbridge have?

What are their speeds?

Is the bus proprietary?

Can the diagnostics be performed while the bridge is
on-line?

How long does it take the bridge to reboot ?

Can the bridge be prevented from accepting a downline 
upgrade, ie by a DIP switch ?

Does the bridge do LAT traffic compression ?

Is either the bridge or any of its modules fault
tolerant?

Are any of the modules hot swapable?

Are the following Spanning Tree parameters settable?
	Bridge Priority
	Port Priority
	Hello Time
	Maximum Age
	Forward Delay
	Long Cache Timer
	Path Cost
	Port Cost

I know these are pretty obscure so any help would 
really be appreciated.

Thanks,

Rob

What is the MBTF of the Bridge ?

What is the MBTF of the modules?

Are any of the modules hot swapable?
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789.1LEVERS::ANILAnil RijsinghaniThu Nov 19 1992 11:3658
>How many internal buses does the DECbridge have?
>
>What are their speeds?
>
>Is the bus proprietary?
    
    The bus is proprietary, so answers to these would be misleading
    without getting into the architecture.

>Can the diagnostics be performed while the bridge is
>on-line?
    
    No.

>How long does it take the bridge to reboot ?
    
    Approximately one minute.

>Can the bridge be prevented from accepting a downline 
>upgrade, ie by a DIP switch ?
    
    Yes -- both by means of a switch on the hardware switchpack and
    a management-settable switch (via SNMP or ELMS).

>Does the bridge do LAT traffic compression ?
    
    No, this is appropriate only for point-to-point, remote links, not for
    local bridges connecting LANs.  The DECbridge models don't have
    point-to-point links (Hastings does however).

>Is either the bridge or any of its modules fault
>tolerant?
    
    Our bridges are inherently fault tolerant due to the spanning tree
    algorithm.  (Backup bridges take over in case of failure of other
    bridges.)
    
>Are any of the modules hot swapable?
    
    No.

>Are the following Spanning Tree parameters settable?
>	Bridge Priority
>	Port Priority
>	Hello Time
>	Maximum Age
>	Forward Delay
>	Long Cache Timer
>	Path Cost
>	Port Cost
    
    Yes except the port priority.  There is no benefit to changing the
    port priority.  Also, the Path Cost is determined by Spanning tree
    based on the dynamic tree configuration (it's defined as the
    cost of this port to the Root); it's only the Port Cost that
    can be manipulated in any bridge.
    
    Anil
789.2more on fault toleranceASDS::LEVYMon Nov 23 1992 10:5622
    re: .1
    
>>Is either the bridge or any of its modules fault
>>tolerant?
>    
>    Our bridges are inherently fault tolerant due to the spanning tree
>    algorithm.  (Backup bridges take over in case of failure of other
>    bridges.)
 
    Gee, Anil, with an answer like that, you have a great future in
    marketing...:-)   
    
    None of the DECbridges are fault-tolerant in the 3000ft sense. If one
    of the four logic modules goes south, the bridge will fail self-test,
    and not go online.
    
    However, all DECbridges can tolerate "external" datalink failures
    (transceiver failure, unterminated segment, backhoe fade, etc.) and
    will continue to operate on the unaffected port(s). This is of limited
    value in a two-port bridge, but certainly a worthwhile feature in the
    three- and four-port variants. 
    
789.3LEVERS::ANILAnil RijsinghaniTue Nov 24 1992 09:289
    No marketing for me, thanks..
    
    One of the two main goals of the spanning tree algorithm is
    fault tolerance.  In simple devices such as bridges, the meaning
    of "fault tolerance" can be nebulous; in this case there seemed to
    be a clear answer.  Yes, everybody does spanning tree these days
    but why not get across a positive message when we can?
    
    Anil