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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

722.0. "FDDI and FXDRIVER and 9000" by GIDDAY::STANISLAUS () Fri Sep 25 1992 04:11

	We installed four DEMFA modules.


	One was installed in a VAX6420, another in a VAX6420, a third in a
VAX 9000-210 and a fourth in another VAX 9000-210. One VAX 6420 is running 
VMS V5.5. Other systems are running VMS V5.4-3.

	The next day the VAX 9000 systems started crashing about once or twice
a day, with a machine check pointing to NXM (non-existent memory error) accessing
the DEMFA CSR. The VAX6420 were running OK. 
The PC is in the FXDRIVER (DEMFA driver) code.

	Note none of the FDDI bulkheads are connected to the DECconcentrator 500.
as yet.

	
	Is there anything different (SYSLOA, etc) for the VAX 9000 to fix this
problem?


Alphonse
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722.1FXFIX for VMS 5.4-3PRSSOS::GROSSETETEFri Sep 25 1992 12:3868
	A long time ago, we received a warning about vms 5.4-3
    and the DEMFA. As it seems to be similar, you could check
    this mail.
    
    	Hope this helps
    
    	Patrick
    
From:	VMSINT::BECKER       10-OCT-1991 08:23:25.87
To:	DELNI::G_NIELSEN
CC:	GAMACHE,PANNER,SALKEWICZ
Subj:	Problem w/ 5.4-3 and DEMFA, kit available, need you to distribute

	George,

		A problem has been discovered with V5.4-3 and FXDRIVER/DEMFA.
	It is a VMS system bug, rather than an FXDRIVER or DEMFA problem.
	It results in a system crash. The fix is available as a set of
	images, all of which take the form SYSLOAxxx.EXE. These SYSLOAs
	are for 6000/9000 class machines running V5.4-3. These images have 
	been put into a kit for installation on a V5.4-3 system. The kit is
	available on the Enet as: 

	Directory BULOVA::SYS$KITS:[VMS0543]

	FXFIX.A;2               882

	Total of 1 file, 882 blocks.

	Any customer running V5.4-3 and DEMFA should get these images. The
	VMS SSB submission for V5.4-3 is history, so there is no way to
	make the distribution of these images "easy" from the SSB. We need
	to get the word out through all the support channel. Feel free to
	forward this.

		Since the problem only exists for the customers running the
	DEMFA, we would like to propose that these images somehow be
	distributed with the DEMFA for the time being. Will you please make
	this happen?

		The nature of the problem is that FXDRIVER needs to allocate
	a seperate page from the System Control Block. This page is used
	to configure the interrupt vectors for the DEMFA which do not work
	with other devices we suppport. The SYSLOA for a given machine
	initializes a data structure cell with the address of a routine 
	FXDRIVER can call to get this special SCB page allocated. The problem 
	is that	under V5.4-3, the memory that holds the routine that FXDRIVER 
	wants to call can be deallocated and reused. The new SYSLOAs have that
	routine	moved to where it can't be deallocated. The crashes are 
	fairly random, but most have the FXDRIVER call through the 
	data structure left hanging on the stack. What I mean is there will
	be a return address to FXDRIVER on the stack and the instruction
	before that return address is where the trouble starts and looks like:

		FXDRIVER+?????	JSB	@28(R0)

		This may or may not be at the very top of the stack. It all
	depends on what the (new and random) code/data in that memory is/does.
	It is possible that the stack contents could get destroyed as well,
	and that this hint would not apply, if for example the first thing
	that the "random" code does is POP a bunch of stuff off the stack.


		Please let us know ASAP if you believe you will have 
	difficulties in distributing this kit.

		Thanks.
		Amy
722.2Loopback required if not connected to DEcconcentrator Loopback required if DEMFA is not connected to a DEconcentrator GIDDAY::STANISLAUSTue Dec 22 1992 18:4812

	In our case the DEMFA's bulk-head was not connected to a concentrator
and did not have a loopback plug installed. All it had is the Fibre Dust Cover
which I thought was a Fibre loopback plug. Once we installed the loopback plug
it was all OK. This was done till the customer was ready to move to using the
FDDI and connect the DEMFA to the DECconcentrator.


	Now he has connected to the DECconcentrator an all re OK.

Alphonse