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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

641.0. "Help with FDDI/Copper plans" by RTPL08::GRAY (Jack of all trades; Master of none) Thu Jul 09 1992 10:56

    I received the following query from a customer. If someone could
    provide me some guidance on a response, it would be greatly
    appreciated.
    
    Lee
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I don't know if you have been following the standardization procedures
    for FDDI over copper twisted pair wiring, but an event took place last 
    week that potentially impacts on the FDDI network I am installing right 
    now.
    
    The ANSI committee on FDDI adopted the MLT-3 data encoding scheme that 
    had been supported by Cresendo and now by Cabletron as opposed to the
    NRZI encoding that is being supported by IBM and, I suspect, DEC.  (I 
    am unable to find any reference to this in the DEC documentation). 
    While 
    this does not finalize the standard, it does push it much further along
    than it has been to date and is a major step toward getting the
    standard
    approved.
    
    We need to find out what DEC's plans are to support the new ANSI
    standard
    if, indeed, it isn't now as I believe.  As we are building our network
    around the DECconcentrator 500s it is imperative that they support the 
    newly emerging standard.  In addition to the concentrators, we also
    have
    the FDDIcontroller 700-Cs in our workstations.  We will need to find
    out 
    about replacing these with ANSI-compliant equipment eventually as well.
    
    As the standard is still evolving, I don't expect DEC to be able to
    commit 
    to immediate changes, but we are concerned that a solution be found for 
    the future. 
    
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641.1RTPL08::GRAYJack of all trades; Master of noneFri Jul 10 1992 10:122
    I'll try a more straightforward approach. Do the DECconcentartor 500s
    and the FDDIcontrol 700-Cs support MLT-3 data encoding?
641.2KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, A-13683Fri Jul 10 1992 13:0425
No.

Those devices support SHIELDED twisted pair cable (and coax).  For those,
it suffices simply to put the traditional NRZI FDDI signal onto the cable,
and that's what is done.

The ANSI work is aimed at supporting UNSHIELDED (Type 5) cable, where this
simple approach doesn't work.

We can't possibly support the "newly emerging standard", since there isn't
anything nailed down to support yet.  The MLT-3 decision is an important one,
but only one of dozens.  There are a lot of other decisions that must be
made before ANYONE can build something that implements the "emerging standard".

Right now all you can get is a number of different proprietary approaches
(of one company, or of a set of companies -- the latter applies to our
current products).  For example, Crescendo's products implement an approach
proprietary to Crescendo.  The fact that they use MLT-3 is irrelevant.
(Crescendo would like you not to understand this, but it is true...)

Given how much effort DEC is putting into all this, you can rest assured that
there will be implementations of the emerging standard once there IS an 
emerging standard...

	paul