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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:	FDDI - The Next Generation

Moderator:	NETCAD::STEFANI

Created:	Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:	Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2259
Total number of notes:	8590

621.0. "AP3 needed?" by BRAT::BUKOWSKI () Wed Jun 24 1992 12:17

    Hello I have a half dozen DEFEB-AA's (500's) that have the following:
    
    AP rev B01
    NI rev A01
    FI rev A02
    QM rev A01
    
    I tried using NDU to load on a new version of bridge software, but it
    didn't work.   I was told the problem was due to my AP board, and that
    it must be an AP3 board in order for this to work.
    
    Is this true?
    What is the difference in AP vs. AP2 vs. AP3
    Can I buy the AP3 via IEG?  My field service rep. can't find an AP3.
    
    I am submitting a equipment list tomorrow for an upgrade of 
    networking hardware and would like to known the part # and cost of the
    AP3 board.  While I am bothering upgrading the processor board should
    I be considering the NI, FI or QM boards.  What is the difference 
    if I would to upgrade them to NI3, FI3 or QM3.
    
    A quick response is appreciated.
    Thank You,
    MKO Network Management,
    Mike

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621.1	DECbridge module rundown	LEVERS::S_JACOBS	Live Free and Prosper	`Wed Jun 24 1992 12:43`	66
	> Hello I have a half dozen DEFEB-AA's (500's) that have the following: > > AP rev B01 > NI rev A01 > FI rev A02 > QM rev A01 > > I tried using NDU to load on a new version of bridge software, but it > didn't work. I was told the problem was due to my AP board, and that > it must be an AP3 board in order for this to work. > Is this true? The DB500 can only run DB500 code. None of the new 5XX/6XX code will run on it. It can be upgraded to a DB510 by substituting an AP2 board. > > What is the difference in AP vs. AP2 vs. AP3 The AP2 has increased code storage space, plus some other improvements. The AP3 in an AP2 with out-of-band management. > Can I buy the AP3 via IEG? My field service rep. can't find an AP3. No, the AP3 is not for sale yet. As I understand it, the AP2 will be phased out when the AP3 is ready. > > I am submitting a equipment list tomorrow for an upgrade of > networking hardware and would like to known the part # and cost of the > AP3 board. While I am bothering upgrading the processor board should > I be considering the NI, FI or QM boards. What is the difference > if I would to upgrade them to NI3, FI3 or QM3. The NI3 has three Ethernet/802.3 ports (AUI) instead of one Ethernet/802.3 port (AUI or Thinwire). There are 7 variations of FI board: SAS ANSI DAS ANSI SAS Single-mode DAS Single-mode DAS ANSI/Single-mode DAS Single-mode/ASNI Null FI (Used with NI3 to give a multiport ethernet bridge with no FDDI) There is only one QM Using the NI3 board or any FI board besides the SAS ANSI requires an AP2 (or AP3). > > A quick response is appreciated. is a half-hour OK? :-)
621.2	Where are the AP2's	BRAT::BUKOWSKI		`Wed Jun 24 1992 13:16`	12
	Great response. Thanks.! Now a couple of follow through questions. So the AP2 module turns my bridge into a 510. Ok good. I assume the answer is yes, but Will I be able to use NDU to upgrade the bridge software with the AP2? How do I get an AP2? Field Service or IEG? What is the part # and cost? Thanks again, Mike
621.3	NDU works with any DECbridge	LEVERS::S_JACOBS	Live Free and Prosper	`Wed Jun 24 1992 16:44`	12
	NDU will work with an AP or an AP2. What matters is that you have the right code for the right target. Use DB500 code for DB500's, DB5XX code for other 5XX models and DB6XX code for 6XX models. An AP2 module is P/N 54-19375-02. I don't know what the price is. I also don't know how to order one, since I've never done it. There is a DECbridge 500/600 Series Installation and Upgrade manual that goes over all the upgrade options. It's part number is EK-DEFEB-IN. Be aware that the 5XX/6XX series cannot be managed via DECelms. You need MCC or MSU or some other NMS that uses SNMP.