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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

619.0. "Metrowave / FDDI-bridge" by VAXRIO::ROLF (Vaporware Design Specialist) Tue Jun 23 1992 10:21

    Is it possible to run a METROWAVE link directly off a '500 or '600
    bridge, thus eliminating the LANBridge 150 or 200 which is normally
    part of the METROWAVE box?
    
    Rolf, DEC Brazil
    
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619.1Maybe 500 bridgeLACV01::TOMCZAKTue Jun 23 1992 14:3313
    Rolf,
    
    You might pass that question to Tom Casey CSS::CASEY if he still is the
    engineer.
    
    A guess is that the "500" single port may work--since it has full
    through put. On the microwave links the bridges really are for "trash"
    filtering of the digitized RF (major use).
    
    Last week I had a client ask the same question. My polite reply was why
    worry about 6K$ in a 100K$+ dollar network.
    
    Stan
619.2Thanks!VAXRIO::ROLFVaporware Design SpecialistTue Jun 23 1992 16:2811
    Hi Stan!
    
    Agree with the $6K / $100K statement, HOWEVER, we are dealing with the 
    brazilian Navy, and they use public funds... and they want answers to all 
    the IFs, WHYs and BUTs...
    
    I always wondered what exactly the bridge in the MW box was good for. 
    
    Thanks for the pointer!
    
    Rolf
619.33 port 600 bridgeLACV01::TOMCZAKThu Jun 25 1992 13:569
    Rolf,
    
    One last point. I understand that the 3-bridge module in the 600 unit
    will, at times, with large traffic loads, cause the through-put to be
    less than the single port bridge in the 500. Perhaps, someone out there
    would know if this is accurate.
    
    73's
    Stan
619.4uh-uhLEVERS::S_JACOBSLive Free and ProsperThu Jun 25 1992 14:261
    No, this is wrong.
619.5clarificationLEVERS::S_JACOBSLive Free and ProsperFri Jun 26 1992 10:5715
    Paul sent me mail asking for clarification on this.  If he needs
    clarification, then it's safe to say others may as well.
    
    The DB6XX bridges have a higher forwarding/filtering rate than the
    DB5XX bridges, and the same translation rate.  The DB6XX bridges do not
    have enough forwarding/filtering to handle absolute worst case traffic
    on all 3 ethernet ports.  (It will gracefully degrade, not crash)
    
    I thought the question was whether a DB6XX with just one ethernet port
    connected will give the same performance as a DB5XX.  The answer is
    yes, but please make sure there are loopback connectors on the unused
    ports.  (avoids periodic packet delay/loss during self test of the
    "broken" ports)
    
    Steve
619.6any empirical work ?MSBCS::KALKUNTERam Kalkunte 293-5139Fri Jun 26 1992 20:526
    Has anyone measured throughput numbers with worst case traffic for the
    DB5xx and DB6xx bridges ? This is the only way to answer this performance 
    question convincingly because worst case resource thrashing with the 2
    bridges are different. 
    
    Ram
619.7DB600 performance paper indirect pointerLEVERS::S_JACOBSLive Free and ProsperWed Jul 01 1992 16:233
    re -.1
    
    Please see note 286.7