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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

585.0. "Vt1200 , lat-x sessions over fddi" by KERNEL::TRAYLER () Tue May 26 1992 13:03

    
VT1200 , Font Loading and Lat-x from a DEMFA, VMS 5.5

I have a customer using vt1200 to create lat sessions onto various different
vaxes. What he has found is that he is unable to load fonts or create lat-x
sessions from nodes that are running lat over a DEMFA controller. He has proved
this by stopping lat on the DEMFA and rebooting the vax , then starting lat on
on an ethernet controller. The vt1200 can then load fonts etc from that node 
without any problems.

Can anyone give me an idea as to what the problem might be? The FXDRIVER they
are using is version X-16 and link date/time 4-Sept-1991. Has anyone
sucessfully done this on their system?

Thanks for any help

Kevin Trayler 

    
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585.1some more infoKERNEL::TRAYLERThu Jun 04 1992 03:2579
A bit more info.

I have tried to reproduce the problem here but have been unable to.
Our configuration that works



Vax 6520 + Demfa f/w rev 1.3 h/w rev E03
VMS 5.5
LTDRIVER v6.0-258
FXDRIVER x-16 link date 12-oct-1992
Decbridge 500 - no filters
Decconcentrator 500


Their configuration that doesn't work

Vax 6xxx + Demfa f/w rev 1.2 h/w rev unknown at the moment
VMS 5.4-3
LTDRIVER v6.0-348
FXDRIVER x-16 link date sept 1992


We put a lan analyser on the ethernet to try to trace a vt1200 font load. What
appeared to happen at their site is that a lat message from the vax to the
vt1200 is never seen on the ethernet. We have no way of analysing whether it
gets onto the fddi but the sequence of event is like this.


Msg No.         Ack No.         Source

09               05             Vax
0B               05             Vax
0C               05             Vax

06               09             vt1200
06               09             vt1200

0B               06             Vax
0C               06             Vax
0D               06             Vax
0E               06             Vax

07               09             Vax
07               09             Vax
07               09             Vax
07               09             Vax

0B               07             vt1200
0C               07             vt1200
0D               07             vt1200
0F               07             vt1200

As message 10 has never been seen by the vt1200 it keeps acknowledging message
9. The latcp counters on the Vax show loads and loads of duplicates received
and messages retransmitted. From latcp we did a set node/hist and looked at the
sequence numbers of messages being sent. Message 10 is sent out but no ack comes
back for it.


This made us suspect that the concentrator/bridge was at fault. We shipped our
concentrator and bridge down there and plugged one of their vaxs in. We
observed exactly the same behaviour.

The only differences between our setup and theirs now are

1. Demfa firmware revision level.
2. FXDRIVER version - ours is vms 5.5 theirs is 5.4-3.
3. VMS version - as above
4. LTDRIVER version - ours v6.0-258, theirs v6.0-348
Today I will try to upgrade our ltdriver to v6.0-348 and attempt to reproduce
the problem again here. I will also try to get their f/w revision to 1.3 on the
demfa.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I'd appreciate anything you could
suggest.

Kevin Trayler

585.2KERNEL::TRAYLERFri Jun 05 1992 03:197

It appears that this is a ltdriver problem,

see latmaster notes conference ( note 807 )

Kev.
585.3bug is in VT1200 firmwareROYALT::RASPUZZIMichael Raspuzzi - LAT Engineering et alWed Jun 30 1993 08:2812
    Just to clarify, this was not an LTDRIVER problem per se.  It is a
    VT1200 problem - it incorrectly states that it uses a data area of 1518
    bytes (LAT spec says that the message size field is to NOT include
    headers, addresses, CRCs, etc).  This was erroneously triggering
    LTDRIVER to use larger packets (since FDDI allows larger packets). 
    These large packets do not go through the 10/100 bridge and
    connections to the VT1200 don't work to well because of this.
    
    A *workaround* for this bug in the VT1200 was put into LTDRIVER. 
    Contact the CSC for the latest patch kit.
    
    Mike
585.4KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, A-13683Thu Jul 01 1993 11:256
Reminds me of similar problems in MOP implementations -- the fix for which is
a rule that says "values of 1504, 1514, and 1518 shall be treated as 1500".

:-(

	paul