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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

500.0. "Questions on FDDIcontroller 700 and TCP/IP" by HXOU01::RUBINGER (Midvale School for the Gifted) Mon Mar 16 1992 09:47

    Hi Gang,
    
    I have some questions from a customer wrt. the FDDIcontroller 700, IP
    and our implementation of FDDI support under OSF/1 (if OSF/1 info is
    unavailable, I am interested in how it is being done in ULTRIX).
    
    1. What is the max input data rate the workstation will sustain using
    FDDI with TCP/IP and UDP/IP?
    
    2. What configuration are available? SAS/DAS?  (FDDIc 700 is SAS, DC500
    is DAS, right?)
    
    3. Is the workstation a claiming station?  That is does it participate
    in network initialization? (We do this only in the DC500, right?)
    
    4. Is the TTRT (target token rotation time) programmable?
    
    5. Is the synchronous transmission time slice programmable?
    
    6. Does the workstation support asynchronous FDDI transmission?
    
    7. How much data buffering is provided by TCP and UDP?
    
    Answers to any or all of the above will be greatly appreciated.
    
    Regards,
    John Rubinger
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500.1MIPSBX::thomasThe Code WarriorMon Mar 16 1992 10:3430
>    1. What is the max input data rate the workstation will sustain using
>    FDDI with TCP/IP and UDP/IP?

Depends on the application and how CPU you want left to do real work.
   
>    2. What configuration are available? SAS/DAS?  (FDDIc 700 is SAS, DC500
>    is DAS, right?)

The DEFZA is SAS only.
   
>    3. Is the workstation a claiming station?  That is does it participate
>    in network initialization? (We do this only in the DC500, right?)

I'll punt on this one.
    
>    4. Is the TTRT (target token rotation time) programmable?

Yes (on OSF/1, no on ULTRIX V4.2A or earlier, maybe on next ULTRIX release)
    
>    5. Is the synchronous transmission time slice programmable?

No.  The OSF/1 environment on provides support for async LLC frames.
   
>    6. Does the workstation support asynchronous FDDI transmission?

Yes.   

>    7. How much data buffering is provided by TCP and UDP?

Upto 64KB-1 per endpoint, default is 16KB per endpoint. 
500.2KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, NI1DMon Mar 16 1992 11:188
(3) ALL FDDI stations participate in Claim; the standard requires that.
    (Don't confuse FDDI with 802.5, which has specialized "monitor" stations;
    FDDI has nothing in common with 802.5.)

(5) Note that IP does not use synch service (RFC 1188 says so explicitly).
    For that matter, neither does any other standard protocol I know of.

	paul
500.3but it's closer than Ethernet...NAC::GULICKThose dirty rings !!Tue Mar 24 1992 13:1414
re. -1
            <<< Note 500.2 by KONING::KONING "Paul Koning, NI1D" >>>

<<(3) ALL FDDI stations participate in Claim; the standard requires that.
<<    (Don't confuse FDDI with 802.5, which has specialized "monitor" stations;
<<    FDDI has nothing in common with 802.5.)

	just to keep you honest Paul, all 802.5 stations are capable of being
	monitor stations and therefor will participate in the 802.5-version
	of Claim Token aka monitor contention

	"nothing in common" is a little too strong...

	-tom
500.4KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, NI1DTue Mar 24 1992 22:149
    Oh, ok.
    
    To be fair, FDDI does have two things in common with 802.5:
    
    	"token" and "ring".
    
    but that's all.
    
    	paul
500.5System for Benching?HXOU01::RUBINGERMidvale School for the GiftedMon Apr 13 1992 14:2515
    Thanks to all who responded.  I have forwarded the info to the
    customer.  They are, however, still insisting on some form of
    throughput measurement.

    The customer has a "benchmark" that they claim measures IP network
    throughput.  They would like to run it on DECstation 5000/240s
    connected via FDDI, doing nothing else to see what the upper limit on
    throughput could be.  

    Is there anyone out there with a config similar to the above that would
    be willing to run the customer's code?

    Thanks and regards,
    John Rubinger