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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

494.0. "Single mode min. distance?" by FROCKY::ERIKSSON () Mon Mar 09 1992 10:07

    I'm currently planning a FDDI backbone with three sites, which will be
    connected over single mode fiber. For redundancy reasons, every site
    should have two concentrators. For reasons of interchangeability and
    simplicity, I would prefer them to be identical, meaning I would use
    single mode fiber also to connect the concentrators within the sites,
    so that the backbone ring would be all single mode.
    (All station ports would be multi mode.)
    
    - Are there any restrictions for single mode minimum distance?
    
    - Is there any reason to use multi mode in the backbone ring in this case?
    
    Best regards,
    Thomas
     
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494.1KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, NI1DMon Mar 09 1992 11:118
You must have a minimum loss between single mode ports.  In most cases that
comes from having a lot of fiber; if the loss is too low, you must include
an attenuator.  That ensures the receiver doesn't get overloaded.  The details
should be in the installation guide for the single mode boards.

Given what you're doing, single mode throughout the backbone sounds reasonable.

	paul
494.2Is there a catch?FROCKY::ERIKSSONWed Mar 11 1992 04:0010
    I don't have the installation guide for the single mode boards; what kind
    of device is an attenuator and where would get it? Does this introduce
    another possible point of failure? Is this a supported configuration? 
    
    Maybe I'm better of using multi mode for the local connection anyway,
    just to avoid any "specials"?
    
    Regards                                         
    Thomas
    
494.3KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, NI1DWed Mar 11 1992 12:1810
The attenuator is just something that blocks much of the light.  Think of it
as fiber optic sunglasses.  I suppose it can fail, but it should be about
as reliable as a connector, which is pretty reliable.

Yes, that's supported.  This is a perfectly normal configuration.

I don't know who sells them or what the part numbers are; that may be elsewhere
in this notesfile or maybe someone else here can supply that information.

	paul
494.4SAAR::B_GOODWINTime is an illusion...Wed Mar 11 1992 19:4722
From the DECconcentrator 500 Single Mode Option card installation manual 
Appendix A:

Minimum required loss - 12dB
Minimum power budget  - 22 dB


Inline loss elements are required for cables with less than 12dB of loss. The 
following specifications apply over the operational wavelength ragne of the 
DECconcentrator optical system (1278 to 1342):

o In single mode cable plants with 0 to 6dB of loss, the installer must include
an inline loss element with 12 to 16 dB loss.

o In single mode cable plants with 6 to 12dB of loss, the installer must include
an inline loss element of 6 to 10 dB.


Inline Loss Element       Amphenol #                Aster Corp #
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
6-10 dB                   945-999-1468-8            AS0170
12-16 dB                  945-999-1468-14           AS0165
494.5use SM and MMLEVERS::S_JACOBSLive Free and ProsperFri Mar 27 1992 10:1925
    I believe the DECconcentrator is offered in versions that have one of
    the DAS connectors single-mode, and one of them multi-mode.  This comes
    in two flavors, A-single mode B-multi mode, or A-multi mode B single
    mode.
    
    These were developed to allow some parts of the dual ring to be single
    mode and some to be multi mode.  It should save the customer a lot of
    money.  However, it could confuse issues aroung keeping spares and
    swapping devices between locations. 
    
    
    
         ______________           ______________           _____________
     SM  |            |    MM     |            |    SM     |           | MM
    -----|A          B|-----------|A          B|-----------|A         B|---
         |___M_M_M____|           |____M_M_M___|           |____M_M____|
             | | |                     | | |                    | |
    	     | | |                     | | |                    | |
     
             M ports are whatever flavor you want to install
    
    
    Steve