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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

465.0. "multicast thru FDDI" by OGWANI::OGINO () Wed Jan 29 1992 22:02

Is it possible to use Ethernet multicast thrugh FDDI?

One of our customer is planning to build an backbone network system using 
FDDI technology for the Trading System. They are thinking to use either
DECtrade or Teknekron for the trading system. For the Teknekron, TCP/IP can 
be used; therefore, UDP/IP can go thrugh FDDI backbone. But I do not know 
about the Nway protocol(Ethernet multicast) for the DECtrade. 

I need information ASAP. Any help will be appreciated.

Yoji
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465.1Yes, multicast packets work fine.ORACLE::WATERSI need an egg-laying woolmilkpig.Wed Jan 29 1992 22:312
    All transparent Ethernet-FDDI bridges will pass multicast messages
    by default.  All of DEC's FDDI bridges, for sure!
465.2Multicast tru FDDIOGWANI::OGINOFri Mar 13 1992 01:149
I understand that FDDI passes multicast data. But DECtrade Nway protocol has
some difficulties to go thru FDDI. Anyway I have another question. If a 
VAX(system A) is connected to an Ethernet segment which is connected to FDDI 
backbone LAN via DECbridge and another VAX(system B) is directly connected to 
FDDI LAN via DECconcentrator and FDDI controller, is it possible to use 
Ethernet multicast from system A to system B? How about from system B to 
system A? 

Yoji
465.3frame translationTKTVFS::IDONaoki Ido, CSC/TOKYO, EWB, DTN 680-2456Fri Mar 13 1992 05:2617
Multicast addresses are transparency among LAN as long as you use the 
translation bridge, but the frame format may be different.
 
When you are using the translation bridge as DECbridge5xx/6xx,

	if system A sends Ethernet V2 frame on ethernet, it will be 
	FDDI SNAP-SAP with Zero OUI frame at system B on the FDDI ring.

	if system A uses IEEE802.2 LLC frame, it will be FDDI 802.2 LLC
	in the ring.

	if system A uses 802.2 SNAP-SAP, it will be FDDI SNAP-SAP with
	original OUI.

-Naoki

	
465.4Completely transparent at the application levelSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Fri Mar 13 1992 10:2214
    And assuming the two VAXen are running VMS, any application that runs
    today on the Ethernet can run on the FDDI talking to other nodes
    on either FDDI or Ethernet (bridged). The frame differrences on
    the wire/fibre are comkpletely transparent to the VMS application.
    All the VMS application sees on each end is the data portion. An
    application doesn not need to worry about the differences in the
    franme headers,.. it will never see them.
    
    Applications that run in promiscuous mode would need to worry about the
    differences because those applications do receieve the full frame, with
    the different headers.
    
    								/Bill
    
465.5KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, NI1DMon Mar 16 1992 11:034
Re .2: please DON'T make a throw-away comment about something not working.
Instead, give some information, so it can be fixed!

	paul