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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

430.0. "ANSI/100 meg. over copper" by KAOFS::N_MANJI () Wed Dec 18 1991 16:22

    Does the ANSI committee approve running 100 meg. over copper?  If so,
    what is the recommendation UTP,STP or coax?
    
    
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430.1No copper standard yetJUMP4::JOYHappy at lastMon Dec 23 1991 16:196
    ANSI is still working on the copper PMD and therefore has no final
    recommendation. I believe the media they are planning to recommend is
    data grade, level 5 STP.
    
    Debbie
    
430.2Current status of FDDI copper work at ANSILEVERS::B_CRONINTue Dec 24 1991 10:1526
    The committee looking at this is named TP-PMD. There is at this time NO
    recommendation for a standard. The committee decided at the October 
    meeting that it did not want to do a standard specifically for 150 ohm STP,
    and so it voted to aim in the direction of a standard that would be
    usable for 150 ohm STP, and 100 ohm CATEGORY 5 UTP. It was also decided
    that an attempt should be made to try to include category 3 and 4
    cables if possible. If it is not possible to get category 3 and 4 to
    work with the category 5 scheme, then a separate approach for the lower 
    grade cables has not been ruled out. Also, cables other than category 3
    and 4 have been discussed. 
    
    At the December meeting there was a proposal put forward to use one 
    coding scheme, with scrambling, for STP/cat5, and another DSP based
    scheme for the category 3 cables. Other proposals also exist, but the
    one mentioned crystalizes the debate. The topics will be debated at the next
    meeting, and possibly the meeting after that. The committee needs to 
    decide whether it will do one or two standards, and then choose the
    best coding schemes for each (by balancing complexity vs time vs
    probability of success, etc). Don't expect any details for at least 4
    months. 
    
    The targets at this time for any standard(s) are Class B EMC performance,
    100 meters on STP/cat5, as much distance as possible on cat3/cat4,
    error rates which are functionally as good as the error rates for the 
    fiber systems (i.e. > 1E-12 bit error rate), and compatibility with the
    existing chipsets. 
430.3How many pairs of UTP??ARRODS::SWANSONTue Feb 18 1992 06:349
Another follow on question, in these preliminary discussions on operation
over UTP cat V cable.  How many pairs of cable are being proposed for each
link?

Is the answer the same for both cat V and catagories IV/III.

Thanks in advance,

Dave
430.4Number of pairs LEVERS::B_CRONINFri Mar 06 1992 18:556
    Four pair cables would be supported. There would be one pair used in
    each direction. 
    
    Since for now there will only be standard for category 5 and STP, the
    applicability to category 3 and 4 is undefined until there is a
    standard for those cables.