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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

359.0. "Dual Homed Concentrator" by RCOCER::MEAD (Can't think of anything clever yet...) Tue Oct 08 1991 11:55

Anyone,

Simple question (I think).  When a concentrator is dual-homed with two other
concentrators, are both links (A & B Ports) passing data over them or is one of
them in loop-back as would be the case with Ethernet bridges configuredin a 
loop?


Thanks,
Ted
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359.1SAAR::B_GOODWINTime is an illusion...Tue Oct 08 1991 14:311
Port A will be in a backup mode. Port B will be passing the data.
359.2DUAL HOMED CONCENTRATORRCOCER::MEADCan't think of anything clever yet...Tue Oct 08 1991 14:577
Hi,

Is the backup port continually checked to assure that it is available in the
case where port B goes away?

Thanks,
Ted
359.3SAAR::B_GOODWINTime is an illusion...Tue Oct 08 1991 15:231
Yes, port A will become active if port B should fail.
359.4backup port is checked periodicallyBAGELS::LEVYTue Oct 08 1991 16:059
    re: .2
    
    Yes. The backup port is periodically checked. This can be observed
    externally as follows:
    
    A port in the backup state will blink its PHY LED
    red/green/red/green... If you disconnect the cable connected to this
    port (to simulate a cable failure), the PHY LED will change to blinking
    GREEN, i.e. waiting for a connection.
359.5Does it show with DECelms?RCOCER::MEADCan't think of anything clever yet...Fri Oct 11 1991 14:147
Folks,

Assume PORT A is operational and PORT B is in standby.  If PORT B goes down, is 
in indicated via DECelms or any other mechanism other than looking at LEDs?

Thanks,
Ted
359.6Visible with DECelmsBAGELS::LEVYMon Oct 14 1991 12:148
    Yes. "Physical Port State" changes from "WATCHING" to "WAITING." This
    attribute is readable by all supported NMS's (DECelms, DECmcc ELM,
    etc.).
    
    Note that the situation described in .5 would never happen for a DEC
    device,  because a PHY B connection always takes precedence over a PHY
    A connection in a dual homing configuration. (i.e. Port B would be
    operational, and Port A would be in standby.)
359.7KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, NI1DMon Oct 14 1991 12:357
Actually, the standard requires that precedence rule, it's not DEC specific.

The standby link has a data integrity test (Link Confidence Test) running
on it, so if the link quality becomes unacceptable, you'll see that via
management.  (It does more than just detecting the presence of the cable!)

	paul
359.8And receive automatic notification....BSS::C_OUIMETTEHolographic Interference RepositoryMon Oct 14 1991 13:2336
    And presumably, if you're running the ELMS poller, this state change
    will generate an event message. Since your concern appears to be that
    you want to receive notification that your "hot standby" link isn't
    operational, you can hack a DCL script, like the following, so that
    you're sent E-mail, or trigger other events. You could change the
    search criteria to match the specific event # you're looking for.
    
    (I'm sure that DECmcc's alarming capabilities make this easier.... I've
    been able to remain blissfully ignorant of that platform, focusing on
    MSU .... 8^)
    
    					chuck
    
    $START:
    $ elms format since 'time_stamp' to event.log
    $ TIME = f$time()
    $ time_stamp = F$EXTRACT(0,17,TIME)
    $ FILE = F$SEARCH("SYS$LOGIN:EVENT.LOG")
    $ IF FILE .EQS. "" THEN GOTO WAIT
    $ sea event.log nsu_con /out=conalarm.txt /wind=10
    $ if $STATUS .eqs. "%X00000001" then GOSUB CONALARM
    $ sea event.log nsu_lb /out=lanalarm.txt /wind=10
    $ if $STATUS .eqs. "%X00000001" then GOTO LANALARM
    $ goto WAIT
    $ CONALARM:
    $ MAIL/SUBJ="ELMS CON ALARM" conalarm.txt holstn::c_ouimette
    $       RETURN %X1
    $ LANALARM:
    $ MAIL/SUBJ="ELMS LAN ALARM" lanalarm.txt holstn::c_ouimette
    $WAIT:
    $ pu/keep=1 event.log
    $ ren event.log event.sav
    $ wait 00:02:00
    $ goto START
    $exit
                                             
359.9SAAR::B_GOODWINTime is an illusion...Mon Oct 14 1991 20:132
    Yes, But will the DECelms poller work with a DECBridge 6xx...
    
359.10Digital's HIP to the EMA thing!BSS::C_OUIMETTEHolographic Interference RepositoryTue Oct 15 1991 09:243
    	 Nope- but this scenario was for the dual-homed concentrator. As
    you note, if one wants to talk to the DECBridge 6xx's, one has to get
    hip to that DECmcc thang....