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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

293.0. "DEMFA and ELMS listener" by CSC32::WOESTEMEYER (Why??...Why not!!!) Wed Jul 03 1991 12:32

First a little background, 2 - clustered 6510, running VMS T5.4-3, both 
CPUs have DEMFA FDDI controllers, DECmcc and MAKO FT software as well as
ELMS V1.1.  

On one system he can start the ELMS listener, on the other he cannot, gets
a 'failed to start listener'.  Investigation shows that on the system that 
fails he has 18 - EX devices. using 'sho lan' in SDA 9 of the EX devices 
are using MOP-RC, the same protocol that the listener is trying to use.
There are supposedly no other processes (TSM, Ethernim, etc) running that
would use MOP-RC.

The question in this case being, is there any way to trace back the existing
EX devices to a process that would have started MOP-RC, and if the process is 
gone is there a way to make the EX device disappear gracefully?  Also any 
ideas as to why they would stick around in the first place?


On the system where he can start the listener there are no EX devices using 
MOP-RC until he does start the listener.

Steve Woestemeyer
CSC/CS - NSU/LAT
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293.1Owner field in UCBMARVIN::DAVISONEric DavisonThu Jul 04 1991 09:1610
These mysterious EXA devices presumably have a non-zero owner PID field in the
UCB ? (SHOW DEVICE/FULL EXA from DCL or SHOW DEV EX in SDA). This field should
indicate the process that started the MOP-RC protocol. If the field is zero then
either the process has succesfully deallocated the device but the driver hasn't
deleted the UCB (presumably because some resource is still outstanding -
normally IO queued to the device which you might get some information on from
SDA SHOW DEV) or the device is owned by non-process code.

Eric
293.2Some help maybeSTAR::SALKEWICZIt missed... therefore, I am Mon Jul 08 1991 15:4322
    Something very similar to this is in one of my QARs right now.
    I'd appreciate your creating a dump and filing it with another
    QAR.
    
    In the meantime,.. we have a couple new SDA commands with 5.4-3
    that you folks might be interested in,... like:
    
    	SDA> SHOW LAN
    	SDA> SHOW LAN/DEV=[ES,ET,EX,EZ,FX,XE,XQ]
    	SDA> SHOW LAN /FULL
    	SDA> SHOW LAN /TIME
    	SDA> SHOW LAN /COUNT
    	
    
    	Various combos of qualifiers will and will not work. You will find
    that these commands provide a much better picture of the Ethernet/FDDI
    stuff at the datalink layer than the old SDA> SHOW DECNET/DATALINK did.
    And whats more,.. they actually work.
    
    	Your milage may vary,.. Unsupported etc. etc.
    
    								/Bill