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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

70.0. "plastic fiber" by SLUGER::MEISNER () Fri Jun 01 1990 09:00

I would like a copy of whatever you have regarding the use of blown-fiber
    as part of your porfolio. 
    
    Does anyone have any information on the status of plastic fiber?
    According to a Forrester Research report entitled "FDDI: A Does
    of Reality" a 250% growth rate in the amount of fiber to the desktop
    will be realized no sooner than 1991 and will be attributed to such
    factors as the use of plastic fiber. Apparently the plastic fiber
    is terminated via a 'cut and crimp' as opposed to the current labor
    intensive process for glass fiber. The expected result is a drop
    in the connector price as well as the labor price. Can plastic fiber
    be blown through those tubes??
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70.1plastic fibreHAMPS::WILKINS_NMon Jun 04 1990 04:5510
    I thought in the U.K plastic fibre was going it. It used to be the
    old 200 micron fibre.  It is more expensive to purchase than 50/125
    and has limited bandwidth, I believe the usefull life is about 5
    years.
    
    No it cannot be blown, blown fibre is limited to 50/125, 62.5/125
    and 85/125
    
    Neil
    
70.2DFON and plastic and/or blown fiberUSRCV1::ADAIRCClaude Adair 252-7087 @RCOWed Jun 06 1990 17:126
    Does anybody know if the same folks who put together the DFON
    documentation and/or the Media Specifications Reference Guide are
    testing plastic fiber?  Are appropriate technical resources assigned
    to evaluating blown fiber?
    
    How about an "official" status from somebody?
70.3plastic at high speedLEVERS::J_HILLThu Jun 14 1990 20:0025
         Hi, I am not a member of the DEFON comittee.  I couldn't
    resist to try to help and offer my two cents, though.
         Standard FDDI calls for 1300nm optics, this is a problem as most
    plastic fiber has extremely large loss at that wavelength, limiting
    range to a few meters.  
         If shorter wavelength optics are used then the link budget
    can be made to be more reasonable.  An advantage is that 850nm
    optics are cheaper, a problem is that its non standard.  Somebody
    mentioned an 850nm version of the PMD, but probably calls for glass fiber.
    If you'r serious, contact the ANSI stanadards commitee and see what 
    they are up to.
         The next problem is that plastic fiber only comes in
    step index variety, this alone reduces the bandwidth of the
    fiber by an incredible ammount.  Since the FDDI baud rate is
    125 meg baud, this seriosly limits the length of your link.
    I wouldn't venture to guess how far you could go, but don't think
    about getting excited.
         I can't say that using plastic fiber is impossible, because
    it isn't, but such a link would be serioulsy limited in length
    and use.  The ease of termination is a good selling point though,
    but it would be interesting to find out what percentage of an installed
    link's price is made up by the termination of fiber.
         Finally, I have no idea what DIGITAL has in mind for plastic
    fiber.
                                              Jonathan     
70.4DO NOT CONTACT THE ANSI COMMITTEE DIRECTLY!KONING::KONINGNI1D @FN42eqFri Jun 15 1990 13:2012
Please DO NOT contact the ANSI FDDI committee.

We have people representing Digital at that committee.  Contact those
people if you have ANSI related questions.  The last thing we need is for
DEC to appear not to know what it's doing by random letters flying into
ANSI from random places in DEC.  (There has been at least one such instance
already and I DON'T want to see another!)

Incidentally, I'm one of the ANSI reps, though on this issue I have no
information to offer.  The comments in .2 sound believable.

	paul
70.5correctedLEVERS::J_HILLMon Jun 18 1990 12:048
    Hello,
         I appolagize, as Mr. Koning indicates in note 70.4, it is
    not a good idea to contact ANSI directly, rather if you have any
    questions regarding ANSI topics, please contact a DEC ANSI
    representative.
         By directing questions to such people, DEC's position will
    not be misrepresented.
                                          Jonathan
70.66 year update :) ODIF11::LICATAWed Jan 03 1996 10:536
    A few years have passed. Could I ask 
    for a brief update on this topic ? 
    
    thanks,
    
    Jim