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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

987.0. "Massachusetts Vehicle title." by ASABET::LAMPROS () Tue Mar 26 1996 14:56

    
    Hello folks,
                  I took out a truck loan with the DCU in December. In
    January they asked for me to send them the title when I get it from 
    the registry. In February they reminded me to send them the title when 
    I get it from the registry. I replied I had not yet received the title
    and would send it in as soon as I get it. In March, still no title from 
    the registry and I got a letter from the DCU that I was not complying 
    to the terms of the loan and my loan would be transferred to a personal 
    unsecured loan with a higher % rate if I didn't send the title in within 
    a week. I called the registry, explained the situation and they expedited 
    the title and I turned it in to the DCU. 
    
    
    Now the DCU wants a second title in their name and wants me to send them 
    a check for $25. I have never been asked for a second title with just
    the banks name on it?
    
               Has anyone else been harrassed for the title or been asked
    for a second title in the banks name?
    
    Bill 
    
     
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987.1You shouldn't get the title till it's paid forAKOCOA::KGREENETue Mar 26 1996 16:3920
    RE: .0
    
    It's been a while ('89) since my wife or I purchased a new vehicle
    through the DCU. What I recall is that one of the forms that you fill
    out at the dealer is an application for title. In the application for
    title, it asks you to specify the lienholders' name and address. 
    
    The title is issued directly from the RMV to the owner (or lienholder)
    of the vehicle. Since you do not own the TITLE to the car, you would
    not receive the title from the RMV. You would only get the title after
    the lien or loan was satisfied.
    
    Not sure how long it normally takes the RMV to process an application
    for title, but if you have your copy, you might want to double check
    the DCU address that was supposed to receive the title.
    
    hth,
    
    kjg
    
987.2Sorry, you loseSNAX::PIERPONTTue Mar 26 1996 16:4323
    If you read the contract for the vehicle loan it states that you are to
    list the lender as a lien holder. Typically this is done as the the
    reg/title paperwork is being completed at the insurance company [in
    Mass]. Somewhere on the reg/title paperwork it also asks if all
    statements are true and correct [including the one section called LEINS
    which appears to have been marked NONE].
    
    The lender wants the title to show them as the lien holder. If it does
    not, lets say you hand over the title to the lender, you can apply for
    a duplicate title and sell the vehicle for $$, then default on the
    loan.
    
    Moving the loan to an unsecured loan [and rate] protects the lender.
    If you want the secured rate on the loan, you must be willing to secure
    the loan with the property, therefore the lien.
    
    They can do the same thing if you do not list them as a loss payee on
    the insurance policy.
    
    Yes, it has been done. Yes I do have the experience [no fault of mine].
    Yes, you need to fix it.
    
    Howard 
987.3Try calling the friendly folks at the DCUWRKSYS::SEILERLarry SeilerMon Apr 01 1996 16:3113
    Did the DCU tell you at the time you took out your loan that you'd
    need to list them as the lein-holder?  I'm surprized that the dealer
    and the insurance company missed this.  
    
    I suggest that you try calling the DCU and explain that you didn't
    realize that they'd have to be listed on the title.  If the $25 is
    a problem, you can always ask whether they'd be willing to cover it.
    But whoever pays for the new title, there has to be one that lists
    the DCU as the lienholder, else the DCU is making an unsecured loan
    at a secured rate.  
    
    	Luck,
    	Larry
987.4CSC32::B_GRUBBSTue Apr 02 1996 14:5317
    
    I made the same mistake but caught it earlier.  The DCU rep told me
    to make sure and give the DMV a copy of the loan agreement when I went
    down.  
    
    The DCU gives YOU all the paperwork to take down and apply for the
    title, including the ceritficate of origin (if brand new) and a copy
    of the finance agreement.  I didn't have the finance agreement with
    me when I registered the truck and they wrote the application for title.  
    I immediately knew something was wrong when I saw the envelope with a 
    title come to my house 3 weeks later.  Cost me $16 (in colorado) to go 
    down and have a new title made with DCU as the lien holder.  This time
    they said the title would be sent on to the main DCU address in
    Maynard.
    
    
    --Bert
987.5ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Tue Apr 02 1996 14:576
    This seems weird.  In Ohio and Texas, the dealer takes care of all the
    title/licensing paperwork for you.  You simply return to the dealership
    when the permanent plate comes in and they put it on for you.  No
    mistakes, no hassles, no mess.
    
    Bob
987.6Every state is differentSNAX::PIERPONTTue Apr 02 1996 15:2725
    In Conn. the insurance co mails you a certiicate [once every six
    months] and registration is handled either by the dealer or the buyer.
    
    In Mass you go to the insurance co to get the registration paperwork
    filled out, stamped, then 'someone' goes to the registry [most
    insurance cos have a runner for $5-$10 to handle the trip to the RMV].
    Newer renewal paperwork in Mass shows an 'Insurance in force. Carrier
    name' on the paperwork so you don't have to go to the insurance co to
    get the stamp.
    
    There is a general lack of consistency in how paperwork is handled
    between states. When we moved from Colorado to Conn. one bank gave us
    the signed title and a letter that said we would list them as the lien
    holder on the new title and we drove away. The other bank mailed the
    title to Conn before we got there and CT sent it back after 30 days
    [before we had a chance to reg he car]. Turned out we didn't need the
    title because CT could look up the existing Colorado title number.
    
    Registering in Colorado is completely different than anything I've
    seen.
    
    In Iowa, you can drive will all your sales paperwork for 7 dfays
    without getting plates! Been there, done that.
    
    Howard