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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

797.0. "Exit Poll" by SPEZKO::FRASER (Mobius Loop; see other side) Fri Mar 25 1994 18:47

        3 Gs
        
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797.1SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideFri Mar 25 1994 18:484
        On behalf of my tfso'd wife and DCU member:
        
        3 Gs
        
797.2Exit PollSWENG::ROBERTFri Mar 25 1994 19:053

  3 G's
797.3TLE::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Fri Mar 25 1994 19:402
3 G's

797.4STRATA::JOERILEYLegalize FreedomSat Mar 26 1994 01:542
    
    3 G's
797.5SWAMPD::ZIMMERMANNI'm a DECer, not a DECieSat Mar 26 1994 11:592
	3 G's
797.6SMAUG::GARRODDCU Board of Directors CandidateSat Mar 26 1994 12:384
    I voted for Milbury, Haskins and Ross. Just to give the other side a
    chance :-}
    
    Dave
797.7Three-plus 3 GsSMURF::STRANGESteve Strange - USGSat Mar 26 1994 15:385
    This is rather silly, but "3 Gs".  Actually, likely 3 or more "3 Gs" since
    I've conversed with some former employees but current DCU members about
    all this :-).  I've got my fingers crossed.
    
    	Steve
797.8Such a nice guy!STRATA::JOERILEYLegalize FreedomMon Mar 28 1994 02:0010
    RE:.6

   > I voted for Milbury, Haskins and Ross. Just to give the other side a
   > chance :-}

    Dave it's real nice of you to do that.  It could have been a real
    confidence breaker for them if they had went home after the election 
    with a Goose egg their names.

    Joe
797.93 G'sCAPNET::SHAHMon Mar 28 1994 10:303
    3 G's.
    
    Bharat Shah
797.113 G'sBRAT::LAVESDonkey HoteMon Mar 28 1994 12:510
797.12STAR::PARKETrue Engineers Combat ObfuscationMon Mar 28 1994 12:572
    2 * 3Gs, Wife (non employee) and I both.
    
797.13NASZKO::MACDONALDMon Mar 28 1994 13:014
    
    3 Gs
    
    
797.14NETWKS::GASKELLMon Mar 28 1994 13:158
    3 G's X 3 
    
    
    -- 1 Emp. 2 family members (who are outraged at what they
    have read about the unholy alliance violating DCU by-laws etc., voted 
    for the 3 G's).
    
    
797.153 G'sPOWDML::GUPTAMon Mar 28 1994 15:001
    3 G's
797.163 G'sKALI::FERGUSONMon Mar 28 1994 16:025
    3 G's x 2 (myself and my husband)
    
    (but you don't really expect someone who voted for 
    people other than the 3 G's to enter a note here, do you?)
    
797.17NUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighTue Mar 29 1994 10:151
3 G's X 2 (self and son)
797.18USCD::DOTENTue Mar 29 1994 10:452
3G*2 (my ballot and a colleagues who gave me her ballot to fill in and "do the
right thing")
797.19I hope the signature/account number was rememberedSMAUG::GARRODDCU Board of Directors CandidateTue Mar 29 1994 11:345
    Re .-1
    
    I hope she remembered to sign it and note her account number on it.
    
    Dave
797.20yup!USCD::DOTENTue Mar 29 1994 11:393
Although she did make me check off the names before signing it.

-Glenn-
797.21PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Mar 29 1994 13:075
�3G*2 (my ballot and a colleagues who gave me her ballot to fill in and "do the
�right thing")
    
    Voting for other members, essentially stuffing the ballot box, is doing
    the right thing?
797.22NASZKO::MACDONALDTue Mar 29 1994 13:199
    
    Re: .21
    
    Get off it.  This was simply a case of a colleague who perhaps had
    not closely followed the election and trusted Glenn to make a 
    recommendation.  People do that all the time.
    
    Steve
    
797.23Ha ha ha!USCD::DOTENTue Mar 29 1994 13:2210
>    Voting for other members, essentially stuffing the ballot box, is doing
>    the right thing?

Oh, you crack me up! What a silly question! The person knows I read the DEFCU
conference and asked me who to vote for. I told her. I even made the X marks and
mailed her ballot for her.

"Stuffing the ballot box". You're pretty damn paranoid, aren't you?

-Glenn-
797.24WLDBIL::KILGORETime to put the SHARE back in DCU!Tue Mar 29 1994 13:267
    
    Well, it's less than the optimal "informed decision".
    
    On the other hand, a good number of people who vote on anything do just
    about the same thing when they base their decision on sound bites or
    who's got the brightest posters at the polls.
    
797.26WREATH::SNIDERBecause that's the way it IS!Tue Mar 29 1994 13:581
    G� X 3
797.27BEIRUT::SUNNAATue Mar 29 1994 19:2220
    
    
    Dam right..! 3Gs*2
    
    I filled my husband's ballot, handed him a pen and the ballot when he
    got home, pointed to the dotted line and asked him to sign..did he fill
    his badge number?? No..I filled the badge number for him. 
    
    He did ask who he voted for after he signed..!
    
    Do I care what Mr. Whatshisname thinks..No!
    
    oh..yes..My husband knows who the candidates he voted for and approves.
    He was working for DEC until he resigned about a month ago..so I knew
    that he would have voted the same way..
    
    Why did I fill it for him..because he would have never have gotten
    around to it until after the elections..
    
    
797.28POCUS::OHARAReverend MiddlewareTue Mar 29 1994 22:507
Who else....3 G's

You know, it's kind of ironic.  Lisa and Paul voted to "dis-member" over
60% of the membership via this relationship thing, yet they ask for our vote.
Is this arrogance or what?

Bob, who's a relationship member quite by chance
797.29Got it, voted and back in the mailGENRAL::KILGOREOne Sky, One Earth, One PeopleWed Mar 30 1994 11:084
Got the ballot in the mail yesterday (work in Colorado), filled it out (3 G's)
and it is going back out in the mail today.  :-)  If I hadn't already parked
my vehicle in the garage when I got home, I would have run the ballot to the 
post office last night.
797.30Make the DCU management work for their pay.BSS::RONEYCharles RoneyWed Mar 30 1994 11:4946
	Well, I just got'm (2) and mailed them out for the 3g's (2x).

	The final thing that pushed me over the edge, and got me more than
	a little upset was the write-up from the one petition person.  The 
	one concept that set me off was the "team" concept.  I just got sick 
	when I thought of the last BOD and what happened there.  There is a 
	term called "group think" (if I remember correctly) that almost lost 
	this country.  When JFK took office, he inherited the "Bay of Pigs" 
	situation, and his *team* was filled with "yes" men and other lame 
	brains.  It was a disaster.  When the Cuban Missile Crises came up, 
	JFK brought in people with opposing views that would allow he and his 
	cabinet to look at all sides and all angles.  This worked very well 
	and we came out much better than the previous situation.

	From what I have seen and read, "group think" is a most desirous 
	attribute from the perspective of the majority of the current (and 
	last) BOD.  And, it seems from the upper DCU management, especially 
	from Mr. CC.  Good or bad, right or wrong, agree or disagree, I am 
	most especially grateful to Mr. Gransewicz for non-adherence to the 
	"group think" concept.

	Making some assumptions from what I have seen and read, I would say 
	that this "petition" person was elected from the elite (as a *team*
	player) to replace Mr. Gransewicz on the BOD.  I also have to assume
	that this "special committee", for the election/re-election of these
	"team" players to the BOD, is chaired by none other than Mr. CC 
	himself.  I would not be surprised if the DEFCU was changed to CCFCU 
	at some later point in time with a BOD consisting totally of "group 
	think" people.  (Remember that this is all speculative based upon the
	actions of people from the DCU and from the last election to now.)

	Instead of accepting whatever the DCU management suggests, e.g. the
	"relationship banking" concept, why does not the BOD have the DCU 
	management come up with a list of problems accompanied by a list of 
	suggested solutions to those problems?  This current situation is here
	(IMHO) because the BOD agreed with the FIRST thing they heard from DCU
	management.  Can not the BOD push back?  If there is a problem with 
	the way the membership is using the DCU, then explore the reasons and 
	situations before coming up with some silly ass, demeaning concept 
	like the current "relationship banking" solution.  If the DCU is truly 
	a cooperative, then get problem resolution suggestions from the members.
	I mean, they are the ones really using it.

	Well, I guess I have rambled on long enough, but I just wanted to get
	this off my chest as it has been stewing for a long time.
	
797.31SALEM::GALLAGHERWed Mar 30 1994 12:003
    this G is voting 3G for NO FEES
    
    
797.32COMET::BUTLERWed Mar 30 1994 13:352
    3 more votes for the "3Gs" (me, wife, 1 over-16 offspring)
    
797.332 X 3G'sSTAR::BUDAI am the NRAWed Mar 30 1994 15:043
My wife and I voted for the 2 X 3 G's.

	- mark
797.352 x 3GCSC32::J_OPPELTProverbs 10:27Wed Mar 30 1994 19:121
    	This topic sounds like a g-string.
797.363-g's twice in our nestBIGQ::GARDNERjustme....jacquiThu Mar 31 1994 16:025

    ...but, it's an X-it pole!

    ;*)
797.37WLDBIL::KILGORETime to put the SHARE back in DCU!Thu Mar 31 1994 16:5817
    
    Well, if we followed the conventional wisdom that diversity is next to
    godliness on a Board, my ticket of choice would be
    
    
      o  Phil G, for the experience and the right view
    
      o  Lois H, for the inexperience and the wrong view
    
      o  Keith M (write-in), for the counterpoint and the implied view
    
    
    However, good sense got the best of me.
    
    G�*2 for sure, plus G�*4 probably (interested coworkers and neighbors)
    
    
797.383 GsPOWDML::GPILLIVANTMon Apr 04 1994 11:351
    
797.39Chose 3G's purely based on candidate statements!RECV::RAMTue Apr 05 1994 11:188
    Last week I received my ballot in the mail. I read the candidate's statements 
    in the ballot mail and guess what, I had chosen the 3G's!
    
    Today for the first-time I looked into this notes-file due to mail from
    my co-worker.  Iam now aware of the controversy that has been
    surrounding this and very glad that I chose the 3G's.
    
    _Ram
797.402 * 3GsQBUS::M_PARISESouthern, but no comfortWed Apr 06 1994 00:381
    
797.41Me and Daughter.CSC32::D_ROYERU breaka my Karma, I tucha U faceWed Apr 06 1994 15:023
    G� * 2
    
    
797.42The whole familyCSC32::LONGRN::SHAWBob ShawWed Apr 13 1994 15:252
    g3 * 4