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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

795.0. "Election REFORM" by --UnknownUser-- () Fri Mar 25 1994 11:34

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795.1PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Mar 25 1994 12:027
�o DCU employees are also members of DCU and hold interest in election outcomes.
�  However, due to their position, and member confidence, no DCU employee should
�  communicate a candidate preference by distribution of campaign materials or
�  recommendation.
    
    Question for discussion:  Should this also apply to current board
    members?
795.2CVG::THOMPSONMud season has arrivedFri Mar 25 1994 13:1917
    Good question. In the past we've had people criticize Supervisory
    Committee members for recommending appointment to that committee.
    We've also seen Board members recommend other candidates for the board.
    My feeling is that people do not give up their right to make
    independent recommendations just because they win election or accept
    appointment to a board or committee. So no, I don't think it should
    apply to current board members. But, BTW, I think that it is ok for
    DCU employees who are members to make recommendations.

    However, I believe that Board members or employees must make it very
    clear by what and how they say it that their recommendation is theirs
    and that they do not speak for the DCU or it's board. That means no
    handing things out in the branches of course. It also means that they
    should make it explicit in what they say or hand out that they are not
    acting in an official role.

    			Alfred
795.3DCU employees have rights tooMONTOR::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatFri Mar 25 1994 17:0111
>  DCU employees are also members of DCU and hold interest in election outcomes.
>  However, due to their position, and member confidence, no DCU employee should
>  communicate a candidate preference by distribution of campaign materials or
>  recommendation.
    
I don't think this is reasonable.  (Does this mean that a DCU employee may
not make a recommendation to a family member?)  What is reasonable is to
control how, where, and when it is done.  It appears that the bylaws are
reasonable in this regard (if they were obeyed).

	Paul
795.4Hardly fair playTOHOPE::REESE_KThree Fries Short of a Happy MealFri Mar 25 1994 17:0915
    Paul,
    
    I agree it might be unreasonable to expect a DCU employee not to
    discuss/recommend to a family member; however this is a far cry
    from standing in a DCU office handing out materials for "selected"
    candidates and making statements "I recommend/we recommend" to DCU
    members standing in line waiting to complete their transactions.
    
    FWIW I was in the DCU office as this was happening.  What concerned
    me the most was the comment by a DCU member who made it clear he was
    not following the election, but as long as the DCU employee assured
    him that non of the people mentioned on her handouts were involved
    in the embezzlement he would follow that DCU employee's recommendation!
    
    
795.5ASE003::GRANSEWICZDCU Election: 3 G's -> NO FEESMon Mar 28 1994 00:3813
    
    RE: .2
    
>    Good question. In the past we've had people criticize Supervisory
>    Committee members for recommending appointment to that committee.
    
    Correct.  In the case where this was done, Lisa Ross, ON HER OWN
    asked the Supervisory Comm. for a recommendation to be issued to the
    entire Board.  If she wanted to personally ask them who SHE should vote
    for, that is her business.  But IMO she had no right to do this for the
    entire Board without first having gotten our consent to do so.  Also, 
    asking the Supervisory Comm. for a recommendation was NOT a part of the
    documented process we had established.  
795.6CVG::THOMPSONMud season has arrivedMon Mar 28 1994 08:015
    RE: .5 I don't see the difference between that and your getting
    support from Paul Kinzelman. In both cases the recommendation is
    going to the group that will vote on the job.

    			Alfred
795.7PACKED::PACKED::JACKSONDCU fees: VoteMon Mar 28 1994 10:1416
    Re:  .6
    
    The difference is that in one case, an individual board member
    chooses to endorse some candidates in an election that is before
    the entire ownership; in the other case a duly appointed board
    would be making a recommendation to another board.
    
    The question is, should a board be making such a recommendation at
    all?  And, if it doesn't, should they be asked to by a member
    of another board without the approval of the entire board?
    
    I can see why Lisa would be interested in a recommendation.  I can
    also see why this request (although perhaps innocent enough) was
    inappropriate.
    
    Collis