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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

590.0. "Employees leaving the credit union?" by TERSE::AUGUSTINE (Making laughter) Thu Jul 23 1992 16:25

I haven't been in this notesfile for a while, so forgive me if this
topic is discussed elsewhere. I've heard a rumor that four people have
quit the credit union this week:
	- the special products coordinator
	- the lending director
	- the vp of operations
	- the vp of lending

Is this true? Could the BoD figure out why all these important
people are leaving at once? Wow. It boggles the mind.


Liz
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590.1What's happeningPLOUGH::KINZELMANPaul KinzelmanThu Jul 23 1992 17:5924
I just spoke to Chuck and he says the following is true...

The Special products coordinator is leaving because she is 8 months
pregnant. She wishes to stay home with the new addition to her family. :-)

The "lending director" (actually Assistant VP of lending) has decided to
take a position with a mortgage company and will leave in mid August.

The VP of operations and VP of lending have announced that they will resign
and may do so tomorrow.

There will be no immediate nor long term problem with these changes of
personnel... to the level of service nor to the financial health of the
credit union.

There will be a board meeting next week and I'm sure the topic will be
discussed at that meeting.

Sorry I can't publish more details, but due to legal restrictions and for
the benefit of the company and the individual no organization may comment on
personnel issues like why somebody left, etc.

As the positions are filled, I can post the person filling the position
in the notes file.
590.2TOMK::KRUPINSKIRepeal the 16th Amendment!Thu Jul 23 1992 18:3610
>The Special products coordinator is leaving because she is 8 months
>pregnant. She wishes to stay home with the new addition to her family. :-)

>Sorry I can't publish more details, but due to legal restrictions and for
>the benefit of the company and the individual no organization may comment on
>personnel issues like why somebody left, etc.

	%NOTES-I-INCONSTANCY, Note is internally inconsistent

					Tom_K
590.3You're rightPLOUGH::KINZELMANPaul KinzelmanThu Jul 23 1992 18:573
Sorry, I guess that is inconsistent. That was a reason which didn't occur
to me would cause a problem if we published it. Perhaps for consistency's
sake I should not have.
590.411SRUS::KRUPINSKIRepeal the 16th Amendment!Fri Jul 24 1992 10:1019
	Board member admits mistake! Film at 11!

				:-)


	A refreshing change!


	Personnel issues ought to be handled little like the US policy
	on the presence of nuclear weapons - "We will neither confirm nor
	deny". Sure, usually it isn't a problem to state the reason, as
	in the case where the employee left because of a pregnancy, but 
	were the reason should remain private, or in cases where you 
	just don't know (maybe the employee doesn't say, or doesn't
	tell you the real reason) you have to say nothing, and saying
	something sometimes, and nothing other times, highlights
	the times when you can't say anything...

						Tom_K
590.5Not a change for me! :-)PLOUGH::KINZELMANPaul KinzelmanFri Jul 24 1992 10:587
I've got lots of practice admitting mistakes - I make so many of them! :-)

Being on the board and not being able to speak my mind publically on
everything is quite a change for me as I mentioned in note 560. There
will be a few rough edges. I hope to supply enough information about
things that I can talk about so that you will be able to trust me when
I am not forthcoming with other information that I can't talk about.
590.6Just a little thanks, PaulLEDS::SIMARDjust in time.....Fri Jul 24 1992 12:006
    With all the pressure this file tries to put on you, I for one want to 
    thank you and say you're doing a fine good job with all your
    interactions.
    
    Ferne
     
590.7TOMK::KRUPINSKIRepeal the 16th Amendment!Fri Jul 24 1992 13:167
>	I hope to supply enough information about
>	things that I can talk about so that you will be able to trust me when
>	I am not forthcoming with other information that I can't talk about.

		Good plan. Implementation looks pretty good from here...

				Tom_K
590.8RGB::SEILERLarry SeilerFri Jul 24 1992 14:2313
If an employee makes a public statement of why they are leaving, it seems
ok to me for the organization to repeat it if they wish.  Digital does 
that too, e.g. publicizing Ken's stated reasons for retiring.  So in this
particular case, I don't see any harm done -- although in future it's a
good idea (if it wasn't done this time) to make sure the employee's reason
really is public.  Being eight months pregnant is pretty obvious, and is
pretty obviously a reason for leaving, but who knows, maybe she didn't want
the fact spread widely to people she doesn't know and doesn't work with.

Keep up the good work, Paul, and thanks for being concerned about the fine
details of fairness and accuracy.

	Larry