Title: | DCU |
Notice: | 1996 BoD Election results in 1004 |
Moderator: | CPEEDY::BRADLEY |
Created: | Sat Feb 07 1987 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1041 |
Total number of notes: | 18759 |
Any of you who have been members of DCU since the beginning - around 1980 - will know what I mean when I say DCU has changed and not necessarily for the better. Most of the changes are subtle, like when you call with a complaint you once got action and now get retoric. Like when you don't like the latest set of changes which no one asked you about before they were implemented. Those who don't want to hear the message will think this note is a complaint about the new charges for checking. They will not understand the real issues because they will be more concerned with discrediting the sender than with looking at the real problem which is one of attitude. Does any of this sound familiar? Today I received the attached commentary on the new charges for checking accounts at DCU. I agree with the comments except for the part about the DCU president running off with 70 million dollars being the cause. That's probably insured so probably not the real reason for the change. The real reason is more likely declining revenues resulting from decreased new loan activity and increased losses for uncollectable debts. I made the discovery about the new checking account charges at the DCU branch last month when I picked up a copy of the glossy pamphlet describing the two great ways to have a checking accout at DCU. I called DCU at that time and was told 'they had not received many calls about this issue'. I'm accustomed to getting that response from DCU whenever I've called with a complaint about anything having to do with changes which they are implementing (the last time I called it was about the closing of most branches from 12:45 - 1:45 each day). They told me that there would be an enclosure with my next statement explaining the new charges. I expected a letter which would CLEARLY explain that there would now be a charge for checking. Instead I received what the rest of you received - the same pamphlet which brags of all the advantages and tries to hide the fact that there will be a charge. I called DCU again and talked with the communications department (doublespeak euphamism for complaint department). I talked with someone who as usual was more concerned with talking faster than me than with listening and understanding the real issue. I said that the real issue is that DCU is acting more and more like Bay Bank or Shawmut in attitude, behavior and charges - reasons that people quit those banks and came to DCU (you know, people helping people, and all). I said that they should be honest, explain the real financial reasons for the change; better yet, let the members know of the problem and possible solutions and ask for input from members on the proposed solutions or other ideas for a solution in advance of making any change. I said that there needed to be at least a clear statement in large print on the front of the pamphlet which says something like: 'WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE FOR CHECKING ACCOUNTS STARTING on SEPTEMBER 1' but I was told over and over that the pamphlet CLEARLY explains the new charges - that nothing is hidden - everything is very obvious, etc. - and there was an implied message that the real problem is my low aptitude in english comprehension. I also asked for the DCU Board of Directors voting record on this issue and was told that their voting record is confidential information but I could have the names of the board members and contact them by sending them letters in c/o DCU. I was also told that the decision was a unanimous vote - I guess that statement was to make it all sound more valid. My real intent was to find out their voting record on this issue and then propose a recall election for those who voted in favor of it or at least a campaign to vote them out in the next election. I suggest that all DCU members complain by contacting their board members directly either by phone or by mail. Now, presenting your DCU Board of Directors (complementary mail routing and DTNs provided in case you want to send them mail or call them directly to voice your disapproval) PICKET::STEINKRAUSS !MARK STEINKRAUS - CHAIRMAN 223-7182 CORMTS::INFANTE !DAN INFANTE 223-8488 ASABET::J_GIBSON !JEFF GIBSON 223-6865 POWDML::COBRIEN !CHARLENE OBRIEN 223-5056 HYPER::SSHAPIRO !SUSAN SHAPIRO 297-3527 ZONULE::RUGHEIMER !JACK RUGHEIMER 223-6330 MTS$::MKO::ABBOTT WEISS !ABBOTT WEISS 264-5718 Subj: take 1 minute and read this....then 2 min at the credit union Subj: The DCU Subj: DCU CHARGES Subj: DCU fees headers removed- From: anonymous Subj: DCU introduces new monthly fees from back door In your recent DCU monthly mail, You might have seen a pamphlet describing two great ways to have checking account with DCU, and new rate information. The whole idea of this pamphlet is to try to draw your attention away from the fact that now you will have to pay some monthly fees if your balance drops below $1000 for any day of the month. This is something you never expect from a credit union. Their argument is that there is a large number of inoperative accounts, and the cost of operation of those accounts have to be paid by all members. They can charge some fees on these accounts but instead of doing that, they are going to impose a flat fee on all accounts with balance less than $1000. You may or may not have heard that DCU's president recently ran away with 70 million dollars. We will now be paying on behalf of that president in the form of monthly fees and increased fees on most other services. Credit unions are usually supposed to be well managed financial organizations who offer low cost services to their members. If you think that you should not be paying a monthly fee, I urge you to go to DCU and voice your protest. All you have to do is to say that you oppose this new change. They will write up a complaint form with whatever you say. It will be a five minute task on your part, but if all of us go there individually, and spread the message around, they will be flooded with complaints and will have to take this fee away. To Distribution List: (List Deleted)
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273.1 | Look at facts and then decide for yourself | GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZ | I'M DCU and you're not. | Wed Aug 28 1991 12:27 | 79 |
RE: .0 That message was in ERROR. Whoever originated it should send out a correction. DCU's former president was dismissed for allegedly bringing fraudulant participating loans to DCU over a 5 year time period. They reached a maximum value of $18 million, NOT $70 million. At least, this is what DCU has told us and appears to match what I have seen in the financial statements. If you have any doubt the fee increases are tied in any way to the losses on the participation loans consider these facts. DCU's net income in 1989 was $3,331,000. DCU in 1990 was $290,000. DCU's losses on bad loans to MEMBERS in 1989 was $173,000. DCU's losses on bad loans to MEMBERS in 1990 was $283,000. DCU's losses on bad participation loans in 1990 was $2,696,000. In 1989, DCU allocated $240,000 to the bad loan allowance. In 1990, DCU allocated $4,406,000 to the bad loan allowance. Let's do some what-if here. What if DCU didn't have to cover large losses on these participation loans? In 1990, they could have allocated $360,000 to the bad loan allowance. Now this is a 50% increase over 1989. That ONE change would result in DCU net income in 1990 to be $4,336,000 instead of $290,000. Instead of an 87% DROP in net income, DCU would have had a 30% INCREASE in net income. So why does DCU need to start charging fees and/or increasing minimums if they made over $4 million dollars last year? I thought a credit union was a non-profit institution? Of course this is a trick question. Because while DCU did make over $4 million last year, they have salted it all away for what they KNOW is coming. HUGE LOSSES on the participation loans. Losses on loans to members has increased by an insignificant amount in comparison. You must also realize that losses on loans is a normal operating expense of a CU or bank. If you are selling produce, you expect and account for spoilage. Loans are no different. DCU had already been allocating money to cover their losses. But when they suddenly realized that their largest loans were all rotting (produce analogy), the allowance was insufficient to cover it and thus the $4,406,000 transfer to the bad loan allowance last year. In 1990, they already have taken a loss of $2,696,000 on these loans. I suspect 1991 will not be a good year either. I have gone through considerable trouble and taken considerable time to review DCU's finacial statements from it's birth right down to the current month's statement of condition. I have also meet several times with Harry Goralick, DCU Director of Finance & Operations, to get answers to questions and gain an understanding of what has and is happening. MUCH of the information I have collected has not typically been disclosed by DCU voluntarily. If you ask for it, you'll probably get it. But how many people have bothered to ask? And know WHAT to ask? I have a B.S. in Accounting and have operated a private business before so these statements are no mystery to me. And I also know that the lack of a statement by the independent auditor is a flag. But not every DCU member has a background that allows them to read and interpret financial statements. That's why the statements of DCU's senior management and BoD are SO important. Those statements MUST be accurate AND complete. I have found several instances where they are neither. While I understand most if not all memebrs will be more outraged at the result of the bad loans (the death of free checking), I wish more people would sit up and take notice of why we are all in this situation to begin with. The DCU BoD, despite repeated statements to the contrary, "invested" our money in speculative real estate. Personally, I take a more conservative view. The BoD circumvented the loan examination policies in place at DCU and reviewed and approved loans to non-DCU members (trust companies). Had these trust companies come directly to DCU to get these loans, they would have been DENIED them. Why? Because they are not within the field of membership of this credit union. DCU's participation in these loans was on average 85%. We owned 85% of the risk. Yet, DCU never verified the information it was given before handing out $18,000,000. And not one name was a DCU member. IMO, DCU's BoD were acting as a bank and NOT a credit union. While they knew they weren't doing anything illegal, they had to have known they were engaging in loans that violated the intent and spirit of the bylaws of DCU. |