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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

168.0. "Macintosh on the DCU flyer" by GUCCI::MOFFITT () Mon Apr 10 1989 10:24

	Late last week, I got my statement from DCU. Included was a
    slick little four page flyer with a cute graphic on page 1. A quick
    look at he art showed a young man leaning back from his desk. On
    the desk was a very nice Macintosh computer.
    
    (flame on)
    As anyone who follows the Macintosh notes file could tell you, I'm
    a rabid lover of the little machine BUT why is it being featured
    on a piece of literature that is destined to end up in the hands
    og a lot of DEC employees? It might be hard to believe but we're
    back in the PC business again and if we can't advertise our own
    hardware internally, then just were is it going to get any visibility?
    Who in the world proofed that flyer? Please don't bring out the
    old rag that says "DCU is a seperate organization and not part of
    Digital". That may well be true but please consider the audience
    you're serving. 
    (flame off)
    
    Boy, do I feel better now.
    tim m.
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168.1This sounds like a good topic for ASIMOV::MARKETING.NOTECOOKIE::WITHERSYou know you can't memorize ZenMon Apr 24 1989 16:210
168.2Enough of this.GUCCI::MOFFITTWed Apr 26 1989 23:2615
    Well, well two weeks pass and nobody from DCU wants to touch this
    one. 
    
    "Take it to the marketing notes file" someone suggests.

    Nah...I've got a better idea. My 90 day CD comes due on the May
    9th. I'll wait in that slow moving line to talk to one of the
    unmotivated tellers just one more time and then I'll just take my
    cash out and deposit in another institution that cares about having
    me as a customer.
    
    No reason to be mad. I learned my lesson and now I'll move on. Thanks
    for the memories DCU...
    
    tim moffitt
168.3BUNYIP::QUODLINGApologies for what Doug Mulray said...Thu Apr 27 1989 00:2319
        Have you considered that the DCU  probably contracted said
        promotional flyer out to an external ad agency or the like. They
        said "show someone enjoying working with a computer". Ad agency
        puuls their picture archive. Sure enough, here is a guy that
        obviously enjoys his work. Ad agency did not hear any
        specification of "Use Digital Workstations". Ad agency probably
        couldn't tell a Mac from a vax anyway. DCU person signing off on
        the ad, is a finance coordinator, not a hardware jock like you or
        I. What do they know of hardware.
        
        So wat is the alternative. DCU calls in Workstation Product
        Management, interrrupting their day, who call in Workstation
        Marketing, who call in their Maketing Communications people. THey
        organize a photo shoot, with an outside photographer, models, and
        dedicated equipment. A lot of people run around, a lot of money is
        spent. What more does it gain us?
        
        q
        
168.4good try...no cigarGUCCI::MOFFITTThu Apr 27 1989 09:1812
    re .3

    Gee, nice justification; nobody who knew enough to tell the difference
    took the time to even proof the flyer before it was sent out. Do
    you think the right people had a chance to check the rest of the
    contents or did they just pencil whip the articles also? No chance
    that the ad agency could have made a mistake theire either, right?

    Yep, just another quality piece from a quality organization.
    
    enjoy,
    tim m.
168.5ALIEN::MELVINTen Zero, Eleven Zero Zero by Zero 2Thu Apr 27 1989 09:4415
re: .0

Sorry, but to me this is a totally undeserved flame.  DCU is separate (well,
you wanted someone to say it :-0).  Have you considered that all people that
do business with DCU are NOT Digital employees?  Have you considered that of
all the people that do business with DCU, many have machines at home that are 
NOT DEC machines (why should they be?).  People own Commodore 64's, 128's,
Amiga's, IBM PC's, Macs, etc etc.  There are not too many people that can
afford MicroVAXes at home.  So why should the brochure have a DEC machine on
it?  Why should DCU advertise for us?  Isn't the ad about a DCU product and
not a DEC one?  It seems to me that there are more important things to vent
anger on (low interests on accounts, for example) than a MAC showing up in 
something that probably 1/2 the people toss out unseen anyway.

-Joe
168.7Horrors!! Not everyone buys DEC!!!REINER::SULLIVANDon't PanicThu Apr 27 1989 13:208
    In fact there are some of us who have MAC's bought for and used
    at DEC. We do have a cooperative marketing/development agreement
    with them.
    
    I'd even be willing to bet that the brochure was drafted on a MAC
    and they just used one of the icons that comes with the package
    (looked like a HyperCard image, both the computer and the person.)
    
168.8Official DCU ResponseTSE::LEEBERNobody Asked, Just My Opinion!Fri Jun 02 1989 12:5823
    This is an official response by Mary Madden of the DCU. The portion of
    that response, dated 30-May-1989, that applies to this note topic is
    included below. See note 2.22 for more information. 
    
    Your comments on this response should be posted here or directed to
    to DCU directly at Mary Madden's number (dtn) 223-6735 x207.
    (Note: New extension for Mary Madden)
        
    Carl Leeber
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         RE: 168.3
    
             Appearing on the front page of March's INPUT/OUTPUT was 
             an image of a MacIntosh computer.  Our intention was to 
             produce a generic graphic to complement the article's 
             focus--the safety of your funds at DCU.  With this 
             in mind, our vendor created the published graphic.  
             During our editing process, we proofed only the written 
             contents.  Our apologies if our artwork offended any of 
             our members.
         
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